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Jeb Bush CAN STOP death of TERRI SCHIAVO !!! CALL!!!
http://www.terrisfight.org ^ | pollywog

Posted on 10/16/2003 9:46:46 AM PDT by pollywog

I chose to put this on Breaking News because it just came on as Breaking NEWS on her website. PLEASE ,PLEASE go to the website http://www.terrisfight.org and read the letters that have just been sent to Jeb Bush in regards to the Terri Schiavo case. JEB BUSH can LEGALLY STOP THIS. CALL his office, CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES, CALL and email the media.THE CLOCK is ticking to save her life.

Sorry if this post isn't " polished" and " refined" but I am not a seasoned " poster" here on FR.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Announcements; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; florida; jebbush; terrischiavo
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To: MarMema
Delightfully witty response. And I am humbled by your tenacity and patience.
1,041 posted on 10/17/2003 11:02:53 AM PDT by agrace
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To: agrace
I know!! I asked him to ping me. I am trying to keep the faith that God has his reasons and I have to be patient (never one of my strong points)!
1,042 posted on 10/17/2003 11:04:05 AM PDT by dixiegrrl
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To: PleaseNoMore
He went so far as to state categorically there was "very little inside this skull other than spinal fluid" (despite contradicting CT scans).

This is all their same old stuff anyway....which is why I have mostly not bothered to even read it. In the past cases they said all kinds of things like this and then when the time came for autopsy, they were proven to be the liars they are.

The pro-life docs in the medical journals, and there do seem to be some left, throw the Quinlan evidence in their faces on frequent occasions.

1,043 posted on 10/17/2003 11:04:30 AM PDT by MarMema (KILLING ISN'T MEDICINE)
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To: MarMema
Amen.
1,044 posted on 10/17/2003 11:06:52 AM PDT by pollywog
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To: MarMema
What is the most reliable source for getting recent information on her status?
1,045 posted on 10/17/2003 11:07:38 AM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: NYer; Salvation
Come here and go back and read as you have time.
1,046 posted on 10/17/2003 11:08:17 AM PDT by MarMema (KILLING ISN'T MEDICINE)
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To: strela
"No, I do not. UNLESS such withholding is written into the law, as it is in this case. "

It is SPECIFICALLY against the law to withhold basic care from a disabled person. Someone posted law to one of the Terri threads in the last few days. FOOD AND WATER are BASIC CARE. What the judge had ruled is illegal. If you starved a dog to death you'd get jail time, why not a human? Even murderers on death row are allowed food and water, yet this woman gets none because people like you deem her useless? You are the useless one in this case. We have no use for you here. Your argument won't be won here on this thread. Why don't you go just off and steal candy from children or whatever else you do with your free time and leave us alone?
1,047 posted on 10/17/2003 11:08:22 AM PDT by honeygrl (Prayers for Terri Schiavo. Pro-death Trollers beware: I'm taking names and I won't ever forget.)
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To: diamond6
I wish I could be in Florida right now!!!
1,048 posted on 10/17/2003 11:08:28 AM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: agrace
I realized that just as I hit the Post button, but thanks for the heads up.
1,049 posted on 10/17/2003 11:08:45 AM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: Armed Civilian
Of course the judge is usurping the law, my question is what is in his past, or who appointed him? There is no way he doesn't have some major influence from someone on the right to die crowd.

Judge George Greer

Excerpt:

He is a former county commissioner who later won an unopposed election to the circuit bench, a seldom-used road to the judiciary.
Another source (I don't have the URL handy) reports that he is a democrat. There has been much research done in these threads on connections between him and various other "interesting" entities in that area.
1,050 posted on 10/17/2003 11:08:48 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: MarMema
Look at what Strela is up to now
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1003106/posts
1,051 posted on 10/17/2003 11:09:35 AM PDT by dixiegrrl
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To: MarMema
Look at what Strela is up to now
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1003106/posts
1,052 posted on 10/17/2003 11:09:55 AM PDT by dixiegrrl
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To: agrace
"Honestly, what's your general point in all this? I'd really like to understand."

Maybe it is just the murderers wife trolling the thread.
1,053 posted on 10/17/2003 11:10:12 AM PDT by honeygrl (Prayers for Terri Schiavo. Pro-death Trollers beware: I'm taking names and I won't ever forget.)
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To: Don Joe
I have just received an unconfirmed third-hand report from a source I trust implicitly, saying that he has asked his brother (POTUS) to take action so that he can intercede.

Oh how I PRAY that this will be so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE Don Joe, KEEP US UPDATED ON THIS.

1,054 posted on 10/17/2003 11:10:40 AM PDT by pollywog
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To: dixiegrrl
Sorry about the double post.
1,055 posted on 10/17/2003 11:10:53 AM PDT by dixiegrrl
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To: diamond6; huck von finn
I don't know. I am not that involved with Terri or her family. I just happen to be a medical professional and have seen deaths such as hers, and I belong to the compassionate care network.
1,056 posted on 10/17/2003 11:12:08 AM PDT by MarMema (KILLING ISN'T MEDICINE)
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To: MarMema; All; Pegita
Transferring Pegita's most important prayer to this thread...Pegita, I pray that you don't mind.

Heavenly Father, it is past the time for a noonday meal ~ and Terri is hungry. Can her dear mother place a soothing washcloth against her skin? O Lord, the torment to this dear woman, the torment to her parents, the torment to all who are involved ... clearly, we are not contending against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places ~ Ephesians 6:12 ..

Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, we rebuke this evil ~ arm Your people with the Word of God and wrap it around those in authority over us, that they do justly, that they love mercy, and that they walk humbly with their God.

May the wisdom of the finest legal scholars be gathered in one place ~ may the cry from Your people be heard in one place ~ may the Almighty Power of God fall upon that one man who can bring Terri out of this darkness. Anoint Governor Bush with resolve and zeal and may he go forth to do justly, because he loves mercy, and because he walks humbly with his God.

Time and time again, we have come before the judge, without relief. I pray that Governor Bush will be that judge for Terri ... we come to him seeking relief for her ~ may it be granted unto her, dear Lord ~ may it be granted. Sustain her ~ protect her ~ hold her safe until her hour of deliverance. In the name of Jesus Christ, King of Kings and Lord of Lords, Amen ...

I stand in agreement with this prayer Father.

1,057 posted on 10/17/2003 11:20:53 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: MarMema
"And btw, did the good doctor Cranford happen to be paid for his position as he spoke from the stand? Yes he did."

Cranford the ghoul makes Kevorkian and Mengele look like Ben Casey and Doctor Kildare.

1,058 posted on 10/17/2003 11:21:59 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: alexandria; Poohbah
The Amazing Poohbah asked me to try to explain Equity. I am NOT admitted to the Florida Bar, but here goes.

Courts are generally Courts of Law and Equity.

Law (Civil Law) deals with contract law among other things, civil rights, damages, torts, etc.

But in this case, let's look at equity. Let's say you and I make a contract for you to sell me your brand new Lexus GS 430 for $100.00. Maybe you broke up with a boy (girl ) friend in the back seat of the car, and it only brings back bad memories, or you have decided you hate the color, etc. For whatever irrational reason you sign a written contract with me to sell it for $100. PS. Gee, thanks!

The four elements of a contract are OFFER, ACCEPTANCE, CONSIDERATION and PERFORMANCE.

I made the Offer.
You Accepted it.
I gave you the Consideration. (the $100)
I arrived to pickup the car, did the paperwork, etc. (Performance) but you wise up won't give up the car. I sue for "my" car.

We may have an entirely valid contract, but a court will most probably invalidate the deal.

Why? On grounds of "Equity." It's inequitable. It's so grossly unfair as to be unenforceable. Had the price been $25,000, I might have had a shot at it, but $100, no way. Such inequity is against public policy, bad for the body politic a a whole.

The parents should have been arguing more Equity from day one.

For example, religious freedom is important and specifically constituionally guaranteed.... but if a 4 year old son of a Jehova's Witness couple is taken to the Emergency Room, and doctors determine the child needs a transfusion to survive, the courts will quickly give the doctors a court order to proceed with the transfusion.

Why?

The child's assumed desire to live trumps the parents religious rights. To let a 4 year old child die because of what the parents believe is simply inequitable. That concept is so strong that most hospitals, in a critical situation, would give the blood transfusion, even without a court order.

That happened a few years ago. The parents sued. The case was quickly dismissed after the three attending physicians testified, that in their medical opinion, the child would have died without the transfusion.

In dismissing the case, the Judge asked the parents, "What are you suing for? Assault with intent to heal?"

The parents needed to have a pro-Terri guardian appointed. Not one in favor of the husband, or in favor of them, but in favor of Terri's assumed right to live.

That guardian, not the parents, but the guardian then could have brought an Equity case, saying, "we don't care who the closest next of kin is, she probably desires to live and she deserves to live."

Fed courts are more likely to give you a shot on equity in a case like this. They sould have gotten it to the Atlanta CCOA!

There is another thing that could have been done. In cases where more than just the "law" is involved, and you have conflicting testimony (in this case about her health and prognosis) the court will sometimes appoint a Special Master to make a report to the judge. This is someone, usually a lawyer with special expertise in the field, in this case, perhaps one of the MD - JD people in this area. I remember a case involving a pilot's suing the FAA to reverse the loss of his medical certificate. The judge appointed a Special Master who was part time lawyer and who also happened to be a full time American Airlines captain!

The family had three major peroblems from day one.

1. They got out-lawyered big time.
2. They did not get public opinion on their side from the very beginning.
3. They depended on a lot of lousy advice, (Jeb can stop it, the New Age therapy charlatins, some of the anti-abortion crowd, advice to try criminal charges, attack the judge, etc.)

It's a shame.
1,059 posted on 10/17/2003 11:25:13 AM PDT by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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To: PleaseNoMore
Transferring Pegita's most important prayer to this thread...Pegita, I pray that you don't mind.

Heavenly Father, it is past the time for a noonday meal ~ and Terri is hungry. Can her dear mother place a soothing washcloth against her skin? O Lord, the torment to this dear woman, the torment to her parents, the torment to all who are involved ... clearly, we are not contending against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places ~ Ephesians 6:12 ..

Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, we rebuke this evil ~ arm Your people with the Word of God and wrap it around those in authority over us, that they do justly, that they love mercy, and that they walk humbly with their God.

May the wisdom of the finest legal scholars be gathered in one place ~ may the cry from Your people be heard in one place ~ may the Almighty Power of God fall upon that one man who can bring Terri out of this darkness. Anoint Governor Bush with resolve and zeal and may he go forth to do justly, because he loves mercy, and because he walks humbly with his God.

Time and time again, we have come before the judge, without relief. I pray that Governor Bush will be that judge for Terri ... we come to him seeking relief for her ~ may it be granted unto her, dear Lord ~ may it be granted. Sustain her ~ protect her ~ hold her safe until her hour of deliverance. In the name of Jesus Christ, King of Kings and Lord of Lords, Amen ...

I stand in agreement with this prayer Father.


Me too!!
1,060 posted on 10/17/2003 11:27:48 AM PDT by 4Godsoloved..Hegave
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