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To: alfa6; kcpopps; Bahbah; MrB; Free State Four; CarolAnn; lagamorph; gura; CARTOUCHE; Lee Heggy; ...
Another interesting tidbit. One caller to the Cates show said that the only reason Graves endorsed Shallenberger is that he got a call from Bush telling him to get off the dime and do it. Anyone else heard that before?

Apparently it was the Graves-Stovall wing of the party that bred all of the defectors who endorsed Sebelius.

129 posted on 11/06/2002 7:35:42 AM PST by Exigence
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To: Exigence
One caller to the Cates show said that the only reason Graves endorsed Shallenberger is that he got a call from Bush telling him to get off the dime and do it. Anyone else heard that before? I have not heard that one before.

I heard that he was persuaded by emails etc.. that reminded him he wouldn't be Gov. without the support of conservatives--and they(we) had to overlook a LOT!

Coincidentally, I emailed him about 4 days before his endorsement and said exactly that. Thank me! (hahaha) Not that it did any good.

131 posted on 11/06/2002 8:39:11 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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As conservatives, we need to decide if we want to effect some payback on these creeps for their defection, or if we want to work to build a stronger coalition. Emotionally, I want the former. Intellectually, I know we should do the later. Republicans in this state are just too hostile to each other. I blame the whiny baby mods, but I know conservatives often act like gasoline on the fire too. Taff, a moderate, couldn't pull off a win either. This should not be happening in this state!
132 posted on 11/06/2002 8:44:54 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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Apparently it was the Graves-Stovall wing of the party that bred all of the defectors who endorsed Sebelius.

I'm listening to Becka (he is an idiot, but if I don't turn on the radio I forget to turn on Rush at 11) and a reasonably intelligent man is arguing that the moderate wing of the Kansas Republican party keeps screwing conservatives and electing Democrats. Becka, of course, argues that conservatives can't get elected because they scowl and just "look mean". Idiot.

The governor's seat was Stovall's to take. She raised bags money and then she dropped out, very late and after a very coy game of tease with the press, to find ~love~. Shallenburger stepped up to the plate, won the primary and took on Sebelius. Tim had no money and Katherine had a pot load. The RINO Graves finally came out, and with a look on his face like he had just seen Eleanor Roosevelt naked, said he would endorse Tim Shallenburger. Then he disappeared. We never heard BOO! from the love-sick Carla. They dropped Tim like a dirty hanky. These people aren't RINOs. They are RAWEDs. Republicans Actively Working to Elect Democrats. /rant fsf

133 posted on 11/06/2002 8:46:48 AM PST by Free State Four
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One caller to the Cates show said that the only reason Graves endorsed Shallenberger is that he got a call from Bush telling him to get off the dime and do it. Anyone else heard that before?

I have heard that several times actually. I wouldn't be surprised if that's true. You listen to Cates too? Do you ever call in?

I'm so glad Doug Mays won. He's so much better than my rep...a Dem. Mays' opponent ran a very nasty campaign.

135 posted on 11/06/2002 8:56:22 AM PST by axel f
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It was a little more subtle. The company he owns/works for was getting a lot of heat about their future revenues if he didn't endorse.
153 posted on 11/06/2002 8:09:42 PM PST by lagamorph
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