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To: entropy12

The ONE ISSUE that DeSantis, initially, didn’t copy the Deep State on was pertaining to Ukraine, where he called it a ‘regional conflict’ and thus basically none of our business. However, he quickly flipped to the pro-World War 3 side, led by Lindsey Graham and Biden.

For people wondering why he didn’t stick with his initial anti-WW3 position, I suspect that it was because he matched Trump’s position on Ukraine, and therefore LEGITIMATIZED Trump’s position - and thus posed a REAL THREAT to the Neocon Project of getting World War 3 started, so they had to get DeSantis on line, at least for that issue. (think about it, how do you keep the money and weapons flowing to Ukraine when both top Republicans are against it?)

The other issues, like pardoning Trump or the Jan 6th political prisoners - it’s harmless to take the pro-Trump side on those, as it won’t get in the way of starting up WW3 or other high-priority Neocon projects...so he can say whatever helps, or may help, get him elected.


8 posted on 05/28/2023 2:44:24 PM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

I for one is for protecting our own borders before BORROWING BILLIONS to protect borders of Ukraine or any foreign country for that matter.

If we had surplus in US Treasury, I could sympathize sending help to Ukraine. But with world record breaking national debt, 40 year record high inflation and yearly budget deficits in federal government, I can’t think of more stupid action than adding to fugly big national debt to save any foreign country.

With national debt much bigger than GDP, whatever money we borrow will require paying interest in perpetuity. The interest payments on national debt are near $600 Billion for fiscal year 2023, and soon will be bigger than defense spending.


12 posted on 05/28/2023 2:51:12 PM PDT by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: BobL

At some point I imagine DeSantis’s advisors told him to act like Trump. So he did - and kept doing so until they told him it was time to start distancing himself from Trump.

That’s the problem with these career politicians and their consultants. It’s all about positioning - looking like you’re one thing at a certain point in time to take advantage of the current circumstances, then changing positions when it’s deemed necessary. Their goal is to be everything to all people at some point and hope that the voters are too stupid to notice them flip flopping.


34 posted on 05/28/2023 4:33:37 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: BobL

“For people wondering why he didn’t stick with his initial anti-WW3 position, I suspect that it was because he matched Trump’s position on Ukraine, and therefore LEGITIMATIZED Trump’s position - and thus posed a REAL THREAT to the Neocon Project of getting World War 3 started, so they had to get DeSantis on line, at least for that issue. (think about it, how do you keep the money and weapons flowing to Ukraine when both top Republicans are against it?)”

Doesn’t look like he changed his stance to me. Just sounds like his comments were “translated” into a more pro-leftist stance, per usual. Remember, it’s the Democrats and RINOs that wanted the Ukraine “war” money laundering scheme.

Desantis’ actual comments:

“I just don’t think that’s a sufficient interest for us to escalate more involvement. I would not want to see American troops involved there. But the idea that I think somehow Russia was justified [in invading] – that’s nonsense.”

Don Moynihan, a Georgetown policy professor, said DeSantis’s “walk-back of his Ukraine comments seems less clarifying than confusing. He is critical of Biden but it is not clear how his position on Ukraine is different: Putin is a war criminal who should not have invaded, no US troops.”

DeSantis also told Fox Nation Ukrainians “have the right to that territory”, adding: “If I could snap my fingers, I’d give it back to Ukraine 100%.

“But the reality is what is America’s involvement in terms of escalating with more weapons, and certainly ground troops I think would be a mistake. So, that was the point I was trying to make but Russia was wrong to invade. They were wrong to take Crimea.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/23/ron-desantis-ukraine-war-russia-territorial-dispute


52 posted on 05/29/2023 6:03:00 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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