Posted on 06/19/2019 11:13:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
No matter how reprehensible one considers former US president Bill Clintons actions to have been in the Monica Lewinsky case, they dwarf in comparison to the actions of Donald Trump. The Republicans impeached Clinton and then moved to remove him from office. Hasnt Pelosi heard of tit for tat?
Similarly, Mitch McConnell, Republican leader of the Senate, has stated that if a Supreme Court vacancy occurs in 2020, the Republicans would fill it the exact opposite of what the party did in 2016, with the argument that regardless of who former president Barack Obama chose to fill the courts vacancy, let voters decide at the polls thus leaving the court with only eight justices and without the possibility of breaking a tie. Why didnt the Democrats mobilise the public against such an outrageous manoeuvre? With such double standards, why dont they call McConnell out for what he is: a hypocrite.
Why is the consensus mantra for Democratic centrists from Obama to former vice president Joe Biden always the same even though it proves to be so disastrous? The answer is simple. What the Democratic Party leadership most fears is that a heated issue and an emotional response would invigorate and activate the Democratic Party base and create a groundswell which would move US politics in a leftist direction.
Impeachment procedures would harden the position of the Democratic Party toward the Republicans and place on centre stage those Democrats like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC), who defend principled positions and oppose the strategy of consensus with the Republican Party at all costs.
A similar move to the left and polarisation would have occurred in 2009, had the recently elected president Obama accused Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and company of crimes against humanity for the torture that they permitted, if not ordered, in the case of black site prisons throughout the world.
Similarly, after the Democrats came back in 2006 and public opinion turned against George W Bushs war in Iraq, Pelosi then recently elected Speaker of the House ruled out impeachment procedures against the President. In considering Pelosis position on impeachment, one has to imagine what people looking back on the Trump administration ten or more years from now will think. They will ask: Was there no moral outrage in the US in response to what Trump has done and said? Why wasnt there a complete repudiation of Trump and everything he stands for from US citizens and the US establishment?
What are the Democratic centrists afraid of? They foresee a scenario in which a mobilised public would give rise to a left-wing pole within or outside of the party. Moving the Democratic Party to the left would dry up funding from powerful economic groups amounting to hundreds of millions of dollars. Eventually it would pull the rug out from under the centrists.
Another possible scenario is that the rift within the Democratic Party would reach breaking point, giving rise to a third party on the left that would draw voters not from the Republicans but from the Democrats. The Democratic Party has more to lose from such a scenario than the Republicans.
All this is not idle speculation. Pelosis decision to oppose impeachment proceedings has a definite explanation and it has to do with the fear of the rise of a leftist pole, be it within the Democratic Party or from without (most likely the latter).
Pelosi did not get to where she is without being shrewd and calculating. The fact is that these scenarios are not long-term future possibilities. The rise of Bernie Sanders and Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) represents a major threat to the Democratic Party centrists.
Regardless of the ideological mindset of US voters, the issues that the Sanders-AOC bloc raises have for a long time represented their beliefs and aspirations. There is every indication that the end-result of the rise of Sanders and AOC will be the emergence of a new left party that would put an end to the USs two-party system.
The fact that Bernie Sanders won Democratic Party primaries in 2016 in states where independents can vote in primaries is telling. AOC, for her part, lacks influence in the leadership of the Democratic Party, but she speaks to the aspirations of ordinary US voters both in and out of the party.
To sum up, the issue playing out within the Democratic Party regarding Trumps impeachment has far-reaching implications, which Nancy Pelosi is fully aware of.
What are the impeachable charges. Getting elected?
It begins with unsustainable premise.
There are centrists in the Democrap Party?
There are “Democrat centrists”??
Waste of bandwith.
Amazing how he refuses to define what he means by “centrist”.
No matter how reprehensible one considers former US president Bill Clintons actions to have been in the Monica Lewinsky case, they dwarf in comparison to the actions of Donald Trump.
The partisan media shill suffers from cranial-rectal inversion.
No, I am sure there are none. 😁
There was evidence of Clinton's wrongdoings. Roger Stone has shown there is nothing to present to a U.S. court to show the alleged Russian hack actually occurred. The only evidence of any crimes related to the 2016 election are those committed by Obama and Hillary who used the FISA courts as their private secret police.
If the Democrats try to impeach the President, they have to present a case and all the evidence goes public. This is why Comey and Brennan won't shut up and Mueller wants to disappear. If the truth comes out, they are the ones who get indicted first, including Mueller.
So the left will keep talking about impeachment while they should be scared to death if it actually happens.
The faked up impeachable charges would go back to the Russian dossier business and the Mueller investigation. If Trump had never had to deal with the fake dossier, then there would have been no impeachable charges.
However, if the impeachment idea would to move onto the next step....House signs off, and sends the charges to the Senate. An impeachment would open up. The problem here...the President could then present a different case, subpoena various FBI members, former Justice Department folks, and former Obama insiders. What would have been a simple two-week take-down of the President would turn into a six-month long impeachment, which McConnell would allow to continue, and hand charges off to Barr to prosecute those giving faulty testimony.
The term ‘burning bridges’? This impeachment would probably burn the Democratic bridge for votes, for an entire decade. Senate Democrats would be begging for a vote to end the impeachment, and be rejected until the the full dose was exercised.
The Democrat Party is already in a Leftward avalanche!
And I dont see anything down slope that has a chance of stopping the mudslide.
It is one of their most prominent and useful assets.
It worked very well when they had complete control of the media.
Now that they no longer have complete control of the media, much of the time, their internal lies are exposed.
The Left is terrible at understanding reality.
They are very good at coming up with excuses about why reality does not agree with them.
Oh, they still have control of the corrupt coup media,
it’s just that fewer people are believing their lies.
I wonder if these idiots consider the Hildebeast to be a centrist?
Also known as cranial-rectal insertion syndrome.
Beating Hillary.
The Left has finally admitted they have devolved into ‘tit-for-tat’ revenge politics, country be damned. how... cute. But that’s what socialism leads to in every country it’s been tried - tit for tat, until the only ones left standing are pre-teens terrorizing old women. What an enlightened idea. For the insane.
“Similarly, Mitch McConnell, Republican leader of the Senate, has stated that if a Supreme Court vacancy occurs in 2020, the Republicans would fill it the exact opposite of what the party did in 2016, with the argument that regardless of who former president Barack Obama chose to fill the courts vacancy, let voters decide at the polls.....”
In 2016, Obama wasn’t running for reelection so McConnell wanted the next President to pick the new Justice. Hillary could have won and picked the new Justice. In 2020, Trump is up for reelection so he gets to fill the opening if one emerges.
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