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Hillary Clinton: How losing to Donald Trump changed her
The Australian Broadcasting Corporation ^ | October 16, 2017 | Sarah Ferguson

Posted on 10/16/2017 1:01:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Hillary Clinton I met in New York for our recent interview with Four Corners was an angrier, less guarded version of the person we have come to know over her decades in public life.

I have been following Hillary Clinton's career since the mid-1990s as a journalist in Washington reporting on the first term of Bill Clinton's presidency.

The Hillary Clinton I knew then would not have said publicly she had been "shivved" by the former head of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, James Comey.

She referred to Comey's handling of the investigation into her use of a private email server as secretary of state, in particular the letter written by Comey days before the election re opening the investigation: "He did shiv me, yeah … we also know that opponents of mine, like former mayor Rudy Giuliani, knew something was coming.

"So there was clearly an effort to derail my campaign at the end."

In response to Comey's remark before Congress that thinking he may have influenced the election made him "mildly nauseous", she said: "It makes me sick."

'An emotional gut punch'

The unexpected loss to Donald Trump seems to have reconfigured her interaction with the world as she grapples with her role in the loss and the role of others.

She describes the Russian hacking of her campaign's emails during the tight race as "more significant than Watergate".

But it is in the personal arena where she sounds the most raw, recounting the difficulty of turning up for Trump's inauguration: "It was very much an emotional gut punch to be there."

In the vision of Hillary Clinton waiting to walk onto the balcony of the Capitol to watch Trump swear the oath of office, the pain is visible.

Her jaw is clenched and she blinks trying to summon the composure that has characterised her public appearances for decades — in the White House as first lady, during her failed bid to reform the US healthcare system, through the many public travails associated with her husband's serial disgraces and as senator and then secretary of state.

I asked her why she had not responded more viscerally to Trump in the second presidential debate, where he clearly moved into her personal space.

She said she wanted to call him out but decided to say nothing.

"We practised him stalking me, which we thought he would do, and indeed he did," she said.

"You know, it's not easy for women to be passionate, even angry, in public; you know that.

"We train ourselves to be as, you know, as calm and together as we can and when any woman expresses her feelings and her emotions as you know your former prime minister Julia Gillard memorably did, you know, it produces mixed reactions by people."

Still a hard path for women

As a young reporter in Washington the mid-1990s, the first person I had lunch with was political powerbroker and close Clinton friend, Betsey Wright.

Wright told me over lunch in the Willard Hotel (somewhat puzzled, I felt, that she had agreed to lunch with such a minnow) that politics was cruel to figures like Hillary Clinton.

She developed the sentiment in a Four Corners program that year, investigating the Clintons' real estate dealings in Arkansas, "when an independent and very smart woman becomes effective, there is a need to turn her into a sorceress casting spells so that eventually she can be burnt at the stake".

According to Hillary Clinton, the progress for female professionals in the 20 years since then has been limited.

"We still have endemic sexism and misogyny and anybody who tries to claim otherwise is either blind or disingenuous … we've knocked down discriminatory laws and obstacles that stood in the way of when I was a young woman. But the attitudes are still there," she said.

'Imagine what it feels like'

In loss, Hillary Clinton is more candid than we are accustomed to in politicians.

That doesn't mean a wholesale acceptance of the errors she made, campaigning decisions in the swing states, or her failings as a candidate, but how many politicians at that level have written a sentence like this?

"I have come to terms with the fact that a lot of people — millions and millions of people — decided they just didn't like me. Imagine what that feels like. It hurts. And it's a hard thing to accept. But there's no getting around it," she said.

Listening to her speak now, it's as if the loss, however searing, has freed her to reconnect more directly with the younger version of herself, singled out by Life magazine on graduation from Wellesley College in 1969 as an icon of her generation.

The young graduate criticised the politicians of the era for the limited scope of their ambition and charged her peers to bring about change on a much grander scale.

She has ruled out a return to politics; almost a year on, it is unclear yet how the loss to Trump will galvanise her.

"I think about it every day, because it was, it was a horrible loss," she said.

"And if I had lost to a normal Republican, I would've been disappointed, but I would not have been so deeply worried as I am now."


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: hillary; hillaryinterview; hillarytrump; trump
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To: stars & stripes forever

simpson96

BILL looked uneasy before they were ushered to their seats. Did he think HILLARY had an ashtray under her coat?


41 posted on 10/16/2017 4:31:53 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING RIGHT NOW IF THIS WITCH HAD ONE?

Muzzie invasion would be up to 500,000 per year

Obamacare would be moving towards 100% government controlled

Taxes would be way up to pay for ANOTHER $20 Trillion “stimulus”

Conservatives would be jailed for speaking out

FR would probably be gone


42 posted on 10/16/2017 4:34:07 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF***)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Nice! Thank you.


43 posted on 10/16/2017 4:34:56 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am starting to think she is REALLY planning on running in 2020. Nothing else really explains the Press coverage she’s getting. I’m seeing articles about her 5X a day now. The Clinton Foundation has a lot of $$. I’m thinking they’re paying journalists to write about her to make sure she stays in the Public consciousness. Still, its a long way to 2020.


44 posted on 10/16/2017 4:38:21 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: SAWTEX
“I have come to terms with the fact that a lot of people — millions and millions of people — decided they just didn’t like me. Imagine what that feels like. It hurts. And it’s a hard thing to accept. But there’s no getting around it,” she said.

It is you, Hillary, who doesn't like them and called them deplorable.

45 posted on 10/16/2017 4:38:42 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So much focus on “how losing made her feel” and “how she copes” and “what she would do differently” etc. Pathetic. Never in the history of politics has there been such drama from a loser.


46 posted on 10/16/2017 4:41:44 AM PDT by albie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She hasn’t changed, her mask has just slipped due to her anger and hubris exposing the real Hillary.


47 posted on 10/16/2017 4:45:02 AM PDT by kalee
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why do we have to read stories about this washed up has been harridan? Enough. I would hope that on Free Republic the only thing I’d ever have to read on this witch would be her obit.


48 posted on 10/16/2017 4:45:31 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Hillary Clinton: How losing to Donald Trump changed her"

Traitorhellary is still Satan's daughter.

49 posted on 10/16/2017 4:49:14 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"You know, it's not easy for women to be passionate, even angry, in public; you know that.

Rubbish. Tell that to Queen Boudicca and her successors throughout history.


50 posted on 10/16/2017 4:54:45 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: Cowboy Bob

She invaded his personal space. He never left his podium.


51 posted on 10/16/2017 4:56:16 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

she hasn’t changed, she was always an evil b***h.


52 posted on 10/16/2017 5:02:10 AM PDT by euram (4)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hillary continues to demonstrate just how much of a lunatic she really is


53 posted on 10/16/2017 5:09:22 AM PDT by okie 54
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this person ever going away?


54 posted on 10/16/2017 5:12:33 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The Hillary Clinton I met in New York for our recent interview with Four Corners was an angrier, less guarded version of the person we have come to know"

I thought Hillary had maxed out on anger. ANNNNGGGRY people like to pass off their innate anger as a reaction to injustice or some other high minded scapegoat, but the honest know better: they're just ANGRY as a default state and look for something to blame it on for self-serving purposes.

55 posted on 10/16/2017 5:12:39 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Those who want to repeat history prevent others from knowing it.)
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To: miniTAX

I bet that sniper attack she was in ruined her psych.


56 posted on 10/16/2017 5:15:02 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (If GOP won House, Senate and Presidency...why are the Democrats still in charge?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"the composure that has characterised her public appearances for decades...through the many public travails associated with her husband's serial disgraces"

DISGRACES? And I thought they were both victims of a vast right-wing conspiracy--and that he was utterly innocent of any DISGRACE.

Shows what I know.

57 posted on 10/16/2017 5:17:30 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Those who want to repeat history prevent others from knowing it.)
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To: arthurus
I hope it can be kept out of the public eye sufficiently that Mrs Bill will run for President again in 2020.

Why not, every thing else about her is a LIE!

I have been convinced that she feels the dems will turn to her in 2020.

58 posted on 10/16/2017 5:20:53 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Where else could 12% DICTATE TO, and live off the rest, yet claim to be "OPPRESSED"?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"You know, it's not easy for women to be passionate, even angry, in public; you know that."

Oh I don't know...many women do it with ease every day. Sarah Palin comes to mind. Dolly Madison. Mother Teresa. Ann Coulter. Judge Jeanine Pirro. Judge Judy. Joan of Arc. Quite a few when you think about it.

59 posted on 10/16/2017 5:25:37 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Those who want to repeat history prevent others from knowing it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You know, it’s not easy for women to be passionate, even angry, in public; you know that.”””

Maggie Thatcher never had a prob expressing anything she wanted to....However if you’re a mean little harriden...


60 posted on 10/16/2017 5:26:41 AM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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