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Hillary Clinton: How losing to Donald Trump changed her
The Australian Broadcasting Corporation ^ | October 16, 2017 | Sarah Ferguson

Posted on 10/16/2017 1:01:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Hillary Clinton I met in New York for our recent interview with Four Corners was an angrier, less guarded version of the person we have come to know over her decades in public life.

I have been following Hillary Clinton's career since the mid-1990s as a journalist in Washington reporting on the first term of Bill Clinton's presidency.

The Hillary Clinton I knew then would not have said publicly she had been "shivved" by the former head of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, James Comey.

She referred to Comey's handling of the investigation into her use of a private email server as secretary of state, in particular the letter written by Comey days before the election re opening the investigation: "He did shiv me, yeah … we also know that opponents of mine, like former mayor Rudy Giuliani, knew something was coming.

"So there was clearly an effort to derail my campaign at the end."

In response to Comey's remark before Congress that thinking he may have influenced the election made him "mildly nauseous", she said: "It makes me sick."

'An emotional gut punch'

The unexpected loss to Donald Trump seems to have reconfigured her interaction with the world as she grapples with her role in the loss and the role of others.

She describes the Russian hacking of her campaign's emails during the tight race as "more significant than Watergate".

But it is in the personal arena where she sounds the most raw, recounting the difficulty of turning up for Trump's inauguration: "It was very much an emotional gut punch to be there."

In the vision of Hillary Clinton waiting to walk onto the balcony of the Capitol to watch Trump swear the oath of office, the pain is visible.

Her jaw is clenched and she blinks trying to summon the composure that has characterised her public appearances for decades — in the White House as first lady, during her failed bid to reform the US healthcare system, through the many public travails associated with her husband's serial disgraces and as senator and then secretary of state.

I asked her why she had not responded more viscerally to Trump in the second presidential debate, where he clearly moved into her personal space.

She said she wanted to call him out but decided to say nothing.

"We practised him stalking me, which we thought he would do, and indeed he did," she said.

"You know, it's not easy for women to be passionate, even angry, in public; you know that.

"We train ourselves to be as, you know, as calm and together as we can and when any woman expresses her feelings and her emotions as you know your former prime minister Julia Gillard memorably did, you know, it produces mixed reactions by people."

Still a hard path for women

As a young reporter in Washington the mid-1990s, the first person I had lunch with was political powerbroker and close Clinton friend, Betsey Wright.

Wright told me over lunch in the Willard Hotel (somewhat puzzled, I felt, that she had agreed to lunch with such a minnow) that politics was cruel to figures like Hillary Clinton.

She developed the sentiment in a Four Corners program that year, investigating the Clintons' real estate dealings in Arkansas, "when an independent and very smart woman becomes effective, there is a need to turn her into a sorceress casting spells so that eventually she can be burnt at the stake".

According to Hillary Clinton, the progress for female professionals in the 20 years since then has been limited.

"We still have endemic sexism and misogyny and anybody who tries to claim otherwise is either blind or disingenuous … we've knocked down discriminatory laws and obstacles that stood in the way of when I was a young woman. But the attitudes are still there," she said.

'Imagine what it feels like'

In loss, Hillary Clinton is more candid than we are accustomed to in politicians.

That doesn't mean a wholesale acceptance of the errors she made, campaigning decisions in the swing states, or her failings as a candidate, but how many politicians at that level have written a sentence like this?

"I have come to terms with the fact that a lot of people — millions and millions of people — decided they just didn't like me. Imagine what that feels like. It hurts. And it's a hard thing to accept. But there's no getting around it," she said.

Listening to her speak now, it's as if the loss, however searing, has freed her to reconnect more directly with the younger version of herself, singled out by Life magazine on graduation from Wellesley College in 1969 as an icon of her generation.

The young graduate criticised the politicians of the era for the limited scope of their ambition and charged her peers to bring about change on a much grander scale.

She has ruled out a return to politics; almost a year on, it is unclear yet how the loss to Trump will galvanise her.

"I think about it every day, because it was, it was a horrible loss," she said.

"And if I had lost to a normal Republican, I would've been disappointed, but I would not have been so deeply worried as I am now."


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: hillary; hillaryinterview; hillarytrump; trump
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To: Cowboy Bob

Jeb Bush


21 posted on 10/16/2017 2:42:36 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I asked her why she had not responded more viscerally to Trump in the second presidential debate, where he clearly moved into her personal space."

Trump never moved into Clinton's space, it's exactly the reverse. It's not as if no video exists to prove that. I wonder which I must believe, that worthless "journalist" or my lying eyes.
22 posted on 10/16/2017 2:49:07 AM PDT by miniTAX
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To: Enchante; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Question is, who steered Ferguson to Betsy Wright?

....Listening to her speak now, it's as if the loss, however searing, has freed her to reconnect more directly with the younger version of herself, singled out by Life magazine on graduation from Wellesley College in 1969 as an icon of her generation.

Who steered Life magazine to this one insignificant grad? Same manner as WJC. and Barack, unknowns with no accomplishments but huge egos with narcissistic cores, were steered. Who were the talent scouts?

23 posted on 10/16/2017 2:54:19 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: arthurus

well they were able to hide F.D.R. having Polio and being crippled.


24 posted on 10/16/2017 2:54:33 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

She is now bitter because she lost the power to be nasty


25 posted on 10/16/2017 3:00:58 AM PDT by BRL
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To: exnavy

I think she’s been in depression much of her life. No one can be so angry and nasty for so many years as she is and not be suffering huge negativity factor like depression. Just like m obama, she can act happy but inside very depressed, hurt, victim mentality, etc, all parts of depression.

HIllary and m obama both were given huge opportunities (grand stage of first lady) to help women and instead both chose to perpetuate victimization of women because both see them selves as victims (depressed).

Hillary and m obama focus on stuff/situations etc, not quality of character. You can’t make yourself happy for long with just stuff or getting your way.


26 posted on 10/16/2017 3:01:39 AM PDT by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We all know that anywhere in this universe is where she will claim is her personal space just to justify, in her empty cranial cavity, anything to make to make excuses. Reality to this thing is long lost as was her infatuation for Vince Foster.


27 posted on 10/16/2017 3:04:48 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: All

28 posted on 10/16/2017 3:04:59 AM PDT by workerbee (America finally has an American president again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“So there was clearly an effort to derail my campaign at the end.”

No duh.... You were trying to derail him and he was trying to derail you.
Isn’t that what ALWAYS happens in a political fight? What a stupid statement.


29 posted on 10/16/2017 3:05:55 AM PDT by weston (SO HERE'S THE STORY: As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: Covenantor
LOL! I said MALE candidates. 😆
30 posted on 10/16/2017 3:43:37 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, I’ve heard that Trump hadn’t done it...but still. Hillary comes off weak and whiney. Not something you look for in a leader.


31 posted on 10/16/2017 3:46:02 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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To: 2banana
It is a gift to DJT.

Yup. That will attract a lot of voters. She lost because she was a corrupt, lying b*tch, and now she's even b*tchier but with twice the lies and corruption.

32 posted on 10/16/2017 3:50:09 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hillary Clinton: How losing to Donald Trump changed her

Well, she used to have the personality of a water moccasin. Her personality no longer rises to that level of appeal.

33 posted on 10/16/2017 3:52:49 AM PDT by stevem
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Losing to Trump will always be the defining moment of Hillary’s life. #Winning


34 posted on 10/16/2017 3:58:50 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She HAS NOT changed!..... she is a lying skanky self centered BI&CH!


35 posted on 10/16/2017 3:58:52 AM PDT by high info voter (Liberal leftists would have "un-friended" Paul Revere!)
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To: Sirius Lee

“I have come to terms with the fact that a lot of people — millions and millions of people — decided they just didn’t like me. Imagine what that feels like. It hurts. And it’s a hard thing to accept. But there’s no getting around it,” she said.

Yes you are as unlikeable as satins sister. Your responsibility for the burning deaths of those children at Waco which led to the murder of Vince Foster puts
you in a class of EVIL not seen in American politics to that point in time.


36 posted on 10/16/2017 4:15:06 AM PDT by SAWTEX
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To: RoosterRedux

The Guess Who’s best song - love that jazzy feel...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb9P8BLipqo


37 posted on 10/16/2017 4:15:11 AM PDT by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s algore losing to Bush II, all over again. He went bonkers, too...and isn’t over it yet.


38 posted on 10/16/2017 4:20:16 AM PDT by FrankR (On the knees is not a good place to be...a man on the knees is only half a man.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“In the vision of Hillary Clinton waiting to walk onto the balcony of the Capitol to watch Trump swear the oath of office, the pain is visible. Her jaw is clenched and she blinks trying to summon the composure...”

Sweet memories. I think I’ll go watch that on Youtube again. :)


39 posted on 10/16/2017 4:21:39 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: simpson96

[Sweet memories. I think I’ll go watch that on Youtube again. :)]

Hillary Clinton at the Inauguration 01/20/2017 All moments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuiU7h_JzFs


40 posted on 10/16/2017 4:29:29 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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