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Don't sugarcoat it — Ossoff's loss is a big disappointment, and a bad sign, for Democrats
Vox ^ | June 20, 2017 | Andrew Prokop

Posted on 06/20/2017 11:53:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: jazzlite

Sorry. I meant to say that the candidate lives out-of-district.


41 posted on 06/21/2017 3:39:26 AM PDT by jazzlite
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Time for all the excuses. Let’s face it, ossoff lost because Republicans are sexists. /s


42 posted on 06/21/2017 3:41:23 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Speaking of collusion with the Russians... where’s the outrage and special counsel on Obama collusion with Syria during his presidential run?

JULY 2008 : (OBAMA COLLUDING, VIA HIS ANTI-ISRAEL ADVISOR [AND FORMER GEORGE SCHULTZ SPEECHWRITER] DAVID KURTZER, WITH SYRIAN LEADER ASSAD ON HOW TO HANDLE BUSH... WHERE’S THE OUTRAGE?)
Team McCain Conference Call: Rudy on Obama Aide’s Syrian Adventure
hotair.com ^ | August 20, 2008 | Ed Morrissey
Posted by Free ThinkerNY

...the trip taken by Barack Obama adviser David Kurtzer to Syria in July [2008]. ...Mayor Giuliani told the conference that the fact that the trip was not disclosed at the time shows Obama’s inexperience and irresponsibility on foreign policy. ...Obama included Assad on his list of world leaders he would meet without preconditions....Kurtzer advised the Assad regime on how to handle the Bush administration, and Obama should have disclosed this at the time...


43 posted on 06/21/2017 3:45:30 AM PDT by piasa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt...


44 posted on 06/21/2017 4:04:24 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was ObamaThanks surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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More winning!!!


45 posted on 06/21/2017 4:05:42 AM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: JohnyBoy

II Chronicles 7:14!!!!!!!!!!!....Thank you Lord for answered prayers!!!!!! Let’s promote this in the headlines!!

We have a President and First Lady (just the beginning of a hundred folks) who are stand up Americans and want MAGA!!! We want NOT to be Europe and other hell holes and show the world that we are a Christian nation.

AMEN.....AMEN.....AMEN, AMEN, AMEN....SING IT OVER!!!


46 posted on 06/21/2017 4:14:40 AM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: JohnyBoy

They will move farther left.


47 posted on 06/21/2017 4:41:36 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
former congressional staffer ... Still, he was a fresh-faced outsider

How can a congressional staffer be an outsider?

Here is the problem. Democrats, like Vox, don't think about what they are saying. They say things that in the back of our mind just do not compute.

Based on anecdotal eavesdropping at work and other places, my guess is that Ossoff gained 1% by emphasizing cutting spending. He lost 1% by living outside the district. He lost 3% by being a congressional staffer, a Beltway insider.

If the Democrats want to win, they need to find candidates who live in the district. Those candidates need to be identified with something other than the Democrat Party. Ideally, they need to be identified with local successful popular business ... eg not the cable company, not a lawyer.

But indications are that establishment politicians do not learn the lessons the voters try to teach them. That is probably true of Republicans also. Nov 2016 said voters want someone who has a spine and some courage. Yet the Republican establishment in Congress has yet to find a spine or courage.

It is just as likely that the Republican establishment will blow it in 2018 as the Democrats will blow it.

48 posted on 06/21/2017 4:53:26 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: FlingWingFlyer
One should always “sugarcoat” a big sh*t sandwich. It makes it easier to swallow. Go for it libs!

Libs don't eat those kind of sandwiches. They don't like bread.

49 posted on 06/21/2017 5:18:31 AM PDT by JusPasenThru (America has two types of fascists: fascists and antifascists.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

dems gonna be madder and madder and start doing stupider things.


50 posted on 06/21/2017 5:19:03 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Le Pen: "Islamism is a totalitarian ideology that has declared war on our nation, on civilization.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
2) It doesn’t look like there’s a furious national backlash over the Republican health care bill — not yet, at least

But Vox still has hope that one will happen.

51 posted on 06/21/2017 5:26:57 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He got his Ossbeatoff. NEXT!!!


52 posted on 06/21/2017 5:42:48 AM PDT by RetSignman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It doesn’t look like there’s a furious national backlash over the Republican health care bill — not yet, at least

Even if the GOP came up with a "perfect" healthcare bill, the obstructionist socialist democratic party would stir up a "backlash".

I'm wondering if the GOP Senators have kept the details of their plan secret at least until this election and the one in SC were over to avoid stirring up the so-called backlash votes.

53 posted on 06/21/2017 5:47:07 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (The Bilderbergers are attempting to overthrow the Constitutionally Elected President)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hahahahahaha. Oh, yes...Hahahahahahaha.


54 posted on 06/21/2017 5:53:39 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

While I am quite happy the idiot lost, why would you run a can that doesnt live in the district??, im NOT at all happy we had to spend 25 million on a seat we should easily win.. yeah they spent a boatload... but so did we. and we shouldnt have had to...


55 posted on 06/21/2017 5:57:10 AM PDT by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Good analysis, Vince.

The Dem problem is they do too much navel gazing. The answer for them is to gaze outward at the people — What do they want? How can we better their lives?

“We The People” is the source of Trump’s Strength.

And to misquote H. L, Mencken. “We Democrats know what’s good for the People and they deserve to get it good and hard!”


56 posted on 06/21/2017 5:58:59 AM PDT by poconopundit (FR: Self-Reliant Lovers of Liberty who can't stop the Chatter)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

57 posted on 06/21/2017 6:09:41 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Democrats haven’t found a winning formula

Nor will they if they stick with the Pajama Boy image as their dressed down and ready for bed Antifa frontline. They expect people to rebel against chaos tey ave deliberately created. This is madness. It is time for the Democrat version of Karl Marx to be shot in the head and buried at sea.

58 posted on 06/21/2017 6:43:53 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Put up a Dem against Ryan in Janesville WI and I’ll donate! That’s the seat the GOP needs to LOSE!!


59 posted on 06/21/2017 6:48:17 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: samtheman; a fool in paradise

‘outspent her 5-to-1’

Actually Ossoff outspent Handle 7 to 1:

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6ij7gg/karen_handel_wins_in_georgia_special_election/


60 posted on 06/21/2017 7:07:17 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic wotk using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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