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Tucker Carlson: I think Elizabeth Warren would have beaten Trump last year
Hot Air ^ | February 9, 2017 | Allahpundit

Posted on 02/09/2017 2:41:24 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Via the Right Scoop, I don’t know that I’d go that far. But I’m also not sure, as I said yesterday, that Warren will be as useful a hate object to the GOP as it hopes and expects. Tucker’s not sure either:

“I don’t know, though. I mean, I see your point, I think it’s a smart point, but I also think — in fact, I’d bet money — that if Elizabeth Warren had received the Democratic nomination, she’d be the president right now, because she is in line with what Democratic voters think. She has a worldview, she can articulate it. I don’t agree with it, but it’s — she’s not just an identity-politics person, she’s got a consistent left-wing economic view that has a lot of support in the country.”

Warren doesn’t have Clinton’s ethical baggage, she wouldn’t have had an eleventh-hour Comey letter scrambling voters’ calculations, and she very probably wouldn’t have neglected making her populist pitch to voters in places like, oh, say, Wisconsin. Liberals turned off by Hillary’s coziness with Wall Street would have loved her; working-class whites might not have loved her, but they surely would have respected her as a more authentic populist than Clinton was. Would that have been enough to keep Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin blue? Maybe not. But it’s hard to see how Warren as nominee would have made it worse.

David Harsanyi agrees with Hugh Hewitt in the clip in thinking that Warren as the face of the Democratic Party would be a gift to the GOP — she’s ideologically radical, she lacks Obama’s charisma, etc — but he admits that it’s no longer so easy to tell what voters might or might not find acceptable in a president after the Trump revolution:

The real question is would Warren’s left-populism play on the electoral map Trump has rejiggered? Is her protectionist trade rhetoric enough to win over white-working class voters in Pennsylvania coal country even though she rails against fossil fuels and cheap energy? Would a lawyer who built a political career growing bureaucracies and pushing regulatory burdens on Americans be popular with rural workers in Ohio? Is it possible that someone who believes Obamacare didn’t exert enough government control over the health-care system going to run strong in a general election campaign in suburban Indiana? Moreover, can a Northeasterner with extreme social views bring working-class Missourians home to Democrats? Liberals from Massachusetts, after all, are still 0-3 (here, here, here) over the past 50 years. And Warren is farther Left than any of them, by a mile.

I use a lot of question marks in the above paragraph because 2016 taught me that the American electorate is volatile and angry, and coastal elites should never make assumptions about its temperament. Still, it’s fair to say at this point — and a lot can change under Trump’s leadership — the answer to most of these questions seems to be “Unlikely.”

Unlikely, but then maybe not as unlikely as “President Donald Trump.” What’s striking about the exchange between Carlson and Hewitt is Hugh analyzing Warren’s chances through a very traditional, even arguably outdated, prism of America being a “center-right country” that would never tolerate a censorious left-wing law professor as president. (Or rather, not another one so soon after Obama.) She’s too radical, she’s too far-left, she’s a new McGovern, etc. Carlson is entirely right to be skeptical of that frame, I think. The point has been made endlessly in political commentary since the election, with some merit, that “left” and “right” may not be as useful in deciphering American politics as they used to be. The “right-wing” president favors protectionism, warm relations with Russia, massive infrastructure spending, and health care for everyone. His political brand is populism and nationalism far more than it is conservatism or “center-right.” If in four years blue-collar voters haven’t seen the sort of economic gains under Trump that they were expecting, why wouldn’t they give a hard look to an authentic left-wing populist like Warren? Plenty of blue-collar whites voted for Obama in 2012 despite his liberal cultural affinities because they were convinced that he was more in tune with their problems than Romney was. They weren’t a majority, to be sure, but they were enough to hand Obama a second term in office. If Warren can claw back some of those voters by preaching single-payer health care and more aggressive redistribution, why wouldn’t she stand a chance against Trump if his first term is disappointing? And even if you think she’d be a weak nominee, why would she be any weaker than Cory Booker, say, or Kirsten Gillibrand or Kamala Harris? The Democratic bench is thin right now. Warren may be their heaviest hitter even if she’s not a heavy hitter per se.

The great question mark with Warren is how she’d play nationally as a retail politician, especially pitted against an ostentatious alpha male like Trump. Yesterday I said that she comes across as an angry librarian (whereas Trump usually comes across as a blowhard uncle who got rich selling cars). Will Rust Belt voters accept someone like her in the role of commander-in-chief, even if they prefer her brand of populism on the merits? For that matter, did Hillary’s gender lead any voters to hesitate last year in putting her in charge of the military, knowing that Trump, whatever his other faults might be, would at least be eager not to let America lose face vis-a-vis enemy states? You can dismiss all of that as sexist and improper and irrelevant in a better world if you like, but rest assured that Democrats will be thinking about it after the midterms. American voters like “strength” in their president, and Trump spends a lot of energy trying to project it. Maybe Warren’s ideological fervor will be received the same way, but if it isn’t, all the share-the-wealth rhetoric in the world might not be able to save her.

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TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: democrats; hillary; trump; warren
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Mr. Obama was never a professor of any kind. He was an instructor, which is maybe two rungs above cafeteria cook on the college totem pole.
1 posted on 02/09/2017 2:41:24 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Warren doesn’t have Clinton’s ethical baggage?
She is a crook like Clinton, just not as big a crook.


2 posted on 02/09/2017 2:42:59 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That's why it's so refreshing to see Warren muted in the Senate.

It simply warms my heart.

3 posted on 02/09/2017 2:43:12 PM PST by Bon mots (Laughing at liberal tears!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Warren? No.

She won’t even be the 2020 nominee.


4 posted on 02/09/2017 2:45:06 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: minnesota_bound

But! But, she has high cheek bones.


5 posted on 02/09/2017 2:45:59 PM PST by Parmy (II don't know how to past the images.)
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To: minnesota_bound

I bet she’s kicking herself that she didn’t run.

But who knew Hillary would literally fall down in disgrace?


6 posted on 02/09/2017 2:47:26 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (It's Donald Trump's America and we're just living in it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NO WAY! SHE VERY UNPOPULAR in her home state!


7 posted on 02/09/2017 2:47:45 PM PST by revivaljoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tucker’s good at debating lefties, but that doesn’t mean his political instincts are worth anything.


8 posted on 02/09/2017 2:48:31 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I love the Tuck but he be wrong.


9 posted on 02/09/2017 2:50:13 PM PST by Az Joe (11-8-2016-----We're still here President Reagan!!)
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To: ifinnegan

Maybe Tucker is playing the Dems hoping for kooky Lieawatha is the 2020 Dem candidate.


10 posted on 02/09/2017 2:54:30 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Parmy

But! But, she has high cheek bones.

...so do wild boars


11 posted on 02/09/2017 2:54:37 PM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is so much about her to make fun of. Trump would have had a field day.


12 posted on 02/09/2017 2:54:43 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

Well if Warren had run, might have been possible that she won, the demodummies are just as daffy as she is. Safety in numbers.


13 posted on 02/09/2017 2:58:14 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Like Obama, Warren is an academic turned senator who has done nothing but run her mouth. But I guess that appeals to a certain type.


14 posted on 02/09/2017 2:58:59 PM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Az Joe

I think what he is really sayinmgis that the dims are that crazy.

And maybe that 50% of the voters are that crazy.

So be afraid.

If the stupid GOPe will let Trump do his thing, we will see such prosperity that Warren will be laughed at.

If the GOPe keeps Trump from doing his economic thing, the crazies will run her or someone like her.


15 posted on 02/09/2017 2:59:38 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Playing the AM dial this morning I heard the exchange and read the article and I think they are missing how unlikeable this shrill is, we are not talking cranky librarian, far worse.

But if Tucker and Hugh ( who is not on my hit parade BTW ) might unconsciously be playing "Herb Adams" the 1980 Hockey Coach of the US Olympic team, as he told his guys, I don't about these Russians, I think they are beatable. etc etc. He was planting seeds to their success.

If they plant a seed that she thinks it's hers and she keeps yapping for the next 2 years and makes the DNC and her career even more of a mess, brilliant! smashing!

16 posted on 02/09/2017 3:00:16 PM PST by taildragger (Do you hear the people singing? The Song of Angry Men!....)
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To: Boogieman

Tucker’s good at debating lefties, but that doesn’t mean his political instincts are worth anything.


If his political instincts were not worth anything, he wouldn’t be good at cleaning liberals’ clocks.

In this case he is expressing an opinion, not debating.


17 posted on 02/09/2017 3:00:38 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nope...he was a "LECTURER", which is even lower still and had one, ONE, itsy bitsy class, which he hardly ever turned up to "teach" and he "taught" SOCIAL JUSTICE...never CONSTITUTIONAL LAW...as so many have claimed.
18 posted on 02/09/2017 3:02:27 PM PST by nopardons
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To: DaveA37

It is possible but I doubt it. I think that Trump would have torched her daily and she would have melted down is the most likely outcome. It was pretty funny the few times he did make fun of her.


19 posted on 02/09/2017 3:03:21 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: laplata

I think Tucker is correct. I always thought she was scary. Anyone who doesn’t think the dem voters a crazy and powerful has been high for the past eight years


20 posted on 02/09/2017 3:03:25 PM PST by stanne
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