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How is Trump doing in the polls (and could he actually win?!)
The London Metro ^ | October 11, 2016 | Jen Mills

Posted on 10/11/2016 1:34:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Polls aren’t always to be believed: just look at Brexit and the last general election.

But there would have to be a large margin of error if the latest polls on the American election are incorrect.

They show Hillary Clinton trouncing Donald Trump following the footage which emerged of him bragging that his fame allowed him to do what he liked to women, including grabbing them ‘by the pussy’, without repercussions....

(Excerpt) Read more at metro.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Polls
KEYWORDS: brexit; freep; hillary; polls; trump
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To: Mr. Douglas

The polls and reports at this point are pure PSYOPS...

The WSJ/NBC Poll is a joke.. Pre debate Trumps down 11, post he’s down 7, and it claims among many other things, Hillary is up 1 with men... both before and after the debate???

Its gas lighting and propaganda... I really, really wish, just for one day I could see some honest internal professional polling from the organizations.. .both of them, because I don’t believe for one minute the crap that is being put out for public consumption.

I don’t say this because I am too emotionally attached to the outcome, I say this, because they just don’t add up remotely to reality... even mathematical reality, forget observed reality.

Now, I am willing to believe reports early ballot request reporting show D’s up in some states, given Soros has spent billions of dollars trying to get 8 Million americans who live overseas registered to vote (and my guess is a lot of them will be fraudulent) in an attempt to affect the elections... I would expect that requests for ballots to be up for D’s here... Enough to overwhelm the election day turnout?? I really doubt it.

I think the level of abject anger swelling among the electorate, has never happened in my lifetime. The press and the punditry is so insanely over the top, that there is no way they can pretend they are being objective and I think most american’s are sick and tired of it and mad as hell.

Everything, everything I am reading this week stinks of propaganda and psyops... purely intended to try to repress turnout and support by convincing folks they shouldn’t bother. Its transparent, any attempt to try to be objective is gone.


21 posted on 10/11/2016 2:03:39 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: laconic

LA Times daily tracker has Trump still up +2 and they were spot on in 2012.


22 posted on 10/11/2016 2:05:26 PM PDT by IVAXMAN
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To: HamiltonJay

contrasting the polls and media vs the actual attendance at her rallies, there is a pure psyops game going.

the democrats are struggling to push the big momentum meme to create a bandwagon to contrast the Trump Train. given post debate reality at trump ralies vs minion media fantasy....


23 posted on 10/11/2016 2:06:21 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Mr. Douglas
I was in Europe for 12 days leading up to and during the Brexit vote. We watched the BBC every day and the polls showed overwhelming support for the STAY vote winning by a large margin. Even the people we met... most if not all of them were voting LEAVE... thought the stays would win because of what the polls said. We all know how that turned out. Lets pray the same for here.
24 posted on 10/11/2016 2:09:50 PM PDT by bella1 (Je suis deplorable)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What really scares me is “early voting” (which I despise whatever happens). Hillary is reported ahead in early voting in several battleground states.

Meanwhile, i have my bright-red new shirt for Election Day! I intend to do it right!!!


25 posted on 10/11/2016 2:10:38 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What I want see is something current on the battleground counties.


26 posted on 10/11/2016 2:15:03 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Honorary Serb

Yes, I am sure she is because SOROS has spent BILLIONS to get 8 MILLION americans who don’t live in the US “registered” I fully expect them to all vote Democrat.. and would not be surprised if most of them are surprised to learn they even voted in the coming election.

Trump needs a monster turnout to beat the fraud that is on tap... I personally think he will get it. I don’t think SOROs is going to win this one.


27 posted on 10/11/2016 2:22:13 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: txrefugee
“You must be desperate for Facebook friends.”

No, not really. I have fewer than 120 facebook friends, which isn't that many, when you consider I have a large family and am active in my community. What's going on is that this election has people coming unhinged. I also live in New York City, so conservatives like me are in the minority.

28 posted on 10/11/2016 2:22:20 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: txrefugee

Agreed. I have about 500 FB friends.. not one liberal (as far as I know), including family members.. if they have liked clinton’a page or post pro-Hillary or Obama stuff, gone... same never-Trump vermin.


29 posted on 10/11/2016 2:26:49 PM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!l)
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To: utahagen

You got that right. It is very ugly in Facebookland! One of my lib friends was soooo nasty when I said look what Clinton did to women and how his wife is an enabler compared to Trump’s words. She told me to get over it.


30 posted on 10/11/2016 2:38:59 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (Love my Steelers!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But there would have to be a large margin of error if the latest polls on the American election are incorrect.

Technically speaking, and the technical matters here, Margin of Error in this context means the likely maximum error in the sample proportion due only to random variation in who happened to be selected. Margin of Error as reported depends only on the size of the sample. In an honest, well-designed survey the reported margin of error is extremely likely to be accurate.

Margin of Error specifically excludes survey bias. There are two much larger sources of bias this year than in previous elections. First, Trump voters have even less trust in pollsters than in 2012 - conservatives are far less likely to respond at all to these polls than in the past. Second, polling organizations are being very strongly encouraged to find the desired polling results, more strongly than ever before, and many are changing how they conduct their polls to make the customer happy.

I am not saying that the polls are way off and Trump is really leading. My point is that I don't know and neither do any other professional pollsters this year. They try to extrapolate from demographics, but regardless of demographic, Trump voters are less likely than ever to respond. We don't know by how much. No one knows, not even pollsters.

31 posted on 10/11/2016 2:40:44 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Brexit was supposedly behind by 11 percent the day before the election. It won by about 8 percent.


32 posted on 10/11/2016 2:43:33 PM PDT by Defiant (The Koran is the Mohammunist Manifesto.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

[Speaking after participating in Chicago’s Columbus Day parade, Rauner said the rhetoric, the language, the statements in the video was, “disgusting, appalling, outrageous, beyond any reasonable bounds of decency.]

Do you know is APPALLING, GOV. RAUNER?

Governor Bruce Rauner signed the bill on Friday, August 21, 2015. Therapy for minors with unwanted, unchosen “gay identities” is now illegal.

Gov. Rauner Signed Vile “Health Care Right of Conscience” Bill into Law 7/29/2016


33 posted on 10/11/2016 2:44:34 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: utahagen

When Trump starts shoving these liberals aholes into gas chambers and ovens, then these moonbats can make their stupid Facebutt posts and complain.

Funny, I don’t recall Trump advocating such action in any of his rallies.

The liberals are all escaped mental patients.

P.S.: You need to get new friends on Facebook.


34 posted on 10/11/2016 2:49:47 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (You can't spell TRIUMPH without TRUMP)
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To: hsmomx3

Tell her to put some ice on it......


35 posted on 10/11/2016 2:50:15 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: PJammers

It was $250,000, not $250.


36 posted on 10/11/2016 2:50:28 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (You can't spell TRIUMPH without TRUMP)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well true or not, I just saw Brett Baier on Fox go over the new trending electoral map. Hillary is taking over most states and if the trend continues she will win in a 347 electoral vote landslide.


37 posted on 10/11/2016 3:14:48 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Polls are never accurate...


38 posted on 10/11/2016 3:16:28 PM PDT by ConservaTeen (Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The RELIGION of Pedophilia...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Freep the poll!!


39 posted on 10/11/2016 3:18:48 PM PDT by hawaiianninja (Palm note to self: "Prepare for some serious 2016 house cleaning. Trump/Pence 2016!")
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To: Toespi

Brett Baier seems like he is actually reasonable.

Was the analysis based on actual polls? or was this some insider stuff.

I wonder if there are some ‘internals’ that are making the MSM so jubilant about HC. It is over the top today.


40 posted on 10/11/2016 3:37:05 PM PDT by bob_esb
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