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I’m sorry—I badly underestimated Trump’s appeal to voters
Newsweek ^ | 6/5/16 | Lloyd Gruber

Posted on 06/05/2016 9:22:57 AM PDT by entropy12

As a political scientist, I feel I owe you an apology. To say my discipline has been behind the curve this electoral season would be putting it too charitably. We haven’t missed one curve yet. We’re speeding through all of them—backwards.

At the beginning of this year’s U.S. presidential campaign, we confidently assured you that the Trump phenomenon wouldn’t last, that the Republican base was just having a little summer fling. We told you we knew how presidential primaries worked. We’d studied them for years, knew the incentives, the structural dynamics, the statistical patterns. Been there, analysed that.

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To: marron

” They talk about normal people the way anthropologists talk about Amazonian tribesmen. They have no clue. “

Exactly.


81 posted on 06/05/2016 2:59:46 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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To: georgiegirl

That bothered me too.


82 posted on 06/05/2016 3:07:52 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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To: JudyinCanada

Well said.


83 posted on 06/05/2016 3:09:29 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: higgmeister

We have also lived with the unemployment. It happened to my family 3 years ago. We recovered (thank you, God!) but it was devastating. We had never been unemployed - even during our first work years under the Carter Administration. Of course, I put a lot of blame of 9/11 and the foreign wars but Obama deliberately set out to impoverish us.


84 posted on 06/05/2016 3:13:35 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Just so everyone understands these learned political scientists, scientist they aren't, are going to Penn State this summer to meet with Mikie Mann. There he will instruct them data round, the hockey stick and flat out lying. By electron time these scientists will show us how they really knew about Trump last summer but to tell us then would have distorted the data. Their finding are stored on Hillary secured server in a closet somewhere. All is good.
85 posted on 06/05/2016 3:14:49 PM PDT by Kozy
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To: entropy12; NathanBedfordForrest

looks like one more person was wrong for trump to be right.


86 posted on 06/05/2016 3:15:44 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma deuce)
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To: M Kehoe

“New York Times has morphed into Pravda.”

The Slimes morphed into Pravda early last century when the communists were slaughtering innocent Russians to make the country into a communist country!

The Slimes ignored the mass slaughter and lied about what was happening to Russia to allow the butchering communists to control Russia.


87 posted on 06/05/2016 3:25:46 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Bill Kristallnacht wants to burn down the conservative movement & elect crooked/lying Clinton!)
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To: Thumper1960

“My takeaway is that Gruber is a moron and couldn’t find his metrosexual azz with both hands, a GPS, a detailed map and a Klieg light.”

LOL. Post of the day. :)


88 posted on 06/05/2016 3:44:23 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: RoosterRedux

It’s about the feeling in your gut. You know it’s there, you feel it.


89 posted on 06/05/2016 4:02:19 PM PDT by V K Lee (uTRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: V K Lee

Right you are!


90 posted on 06/05/2016 4:05:51 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: steel_resolve

lol I almost expected to read “milk” instead of ink.

aggravating but very entertaining !


91 posted on 06/05/2016 5:08:02 PM PDT by visualops (It's the majority of the American people and Trump against the enemies of the republic - Windflier)
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To: Hardens Hollow

Many people laughed some time back when Trump said “I’m a truth-teller”. The truth is a powerful thing.


92 posted on 06/05/2016 5:17:29 PM PDT by visualops (It's the majority of the American people and Trump against the enemies of the republic - Windflier)
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To: steel_resolve

And they want buck twenty five a week for that crap.


93 posted on 06/05/2016 6:08:33 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789)
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To: entropy12

Is that the Gruber who said they could get Obamacare thru just by lying because Americans are so stupid? THAT Gruber ?


94 posted on 06/05/2016 6:46:31 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: steel_resolve
Blaming "a meal culpable" on auto-correct, huh?

Yeah sure. A likely story.

Run, run far away from meals culpable. Stand way back until the health department shuts 'em down.

95 posted on 06/05/2016 6:54:31 PM PDT by 7MMmag (No! We no see your cat. No more ask please!)
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To: entropy12

I don’t know who this guy was but I was hoping it was Levin. Ha.


96 posted on 06/05/2016 6:56:13 PM PDT by Yaelle (Tinkerbelle glittering up the runway for Trump Force One!)
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To: Jim Noble

Another idiot who doesn’t understand the difference between legal immigration and illegal.

Let me help this Gruber. The guy in the bank taking out $200 from his account is a LEGAL BANK IMMIGRANT. The guy in the mask with the pistol forcing the teller to give him all her money is an ILLEGAL BANK IMMIGRANT. Do you get it now?


97 posted on 06/05/2016 7:00:33 PM PDT by Yaelle (Tinkerbelle glittering up the runway for Trump Force One!)
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To: entropy12
Why did Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio flame out in such spectacular fashion? And more to the point, why didn’t anyone in my discipline predict it?

Ummm, because you guys are a bunch of out-of-touch elites living in an echo chamber and you still don't 'get it'. Lloyd Gruber's words are measured, but when the fluff is removed he's saying 'Trump's a racist and so are his followers... it's a stupid and vile argument...and wrong.

But typically 'democrat'... reminds me of the horrible things democrats said in the Jim Crow south about what blacks really wanted. As democrat always do - they projected their hated on people who were in fact fighting for their rights. Just as in our time - we are. It's as simple as wanting our borders protected... not falling for the lie that 'illegals' are the same a legal immigrants ( which we all are.. and continue to accept with open arms)..

Lloyd Gruber is a hater - he's too stupid to see it.

98 posted on 06/05/2016 8:17:30 PM PDT by GOPJ ("DHS Quietly Moving, Releasing Vanloads of Illegal Aliens Away from Border"-where's ABC, CBS, CNN???)
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To: entropy12

Lloyd Gruber and his fellow thugs need to read these comments from the man who writes Dilbert...

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/145456082991/my-endorsement-for-president-of-the-united-states

Dilbert logo Comics Blog

Scott Adams’ Blog
Top Tech Berkeley Start-ups
My Endorsement for President of the United States

Posted June 5th, 2016 @ 10:11am in #Trump #clinton2016

I’ve decided to come off the sidelines and endorse a candidate for President of the United States.

I’ll start by reminding readers that my politics don’t align with any of the candidates. My interest in the race has been limited to Trump’s extraordinary persuasion skills. But lately Hillary Clinton has moved into the persuasion game – and away from boring facts and policies – with great success. Let’s talk about that.

This past week we saw Clinton pair the idea of President Trump with nuclear disaster, racism, Hitler, the Holocaust, and whatever else makes you tremble in fear.

That is good persuasion if you can pull it off because fear is a strong motivator. It is also a sharp pivot from Clinton’s prior approach of talking about her mastery of policy details, her experience, and her gender. Trump took her so-called “woman card” and turned it into a liability. So Clinton wisely pivoted. Her new scare tactics are solid-gold persuasion. I wouldn’t be surprised if you see Clinton’s numbers versus Trump improve in June, at least temporarily, until Trump finds a counter-move.

The only downside I can see to the new approach is that it is likely to trigger a race war in the United States. And I would be a top-ten assassination target in that scenario because once you define Trump as Hitler, you also give citizens moral permission to kill him. And obviously it would be okay to kill anyone who actively supports a genocidal dictator, including anyone who wrote about his persuasion skills in positive terms. (I’m called an “apologist” on Twitter, or sometimes just Joseph Goebbels).

If Clinton successfully pairs Trump with Hitler in your mind – as she is doing – and loses anyway, about a quarter of the country will think it is morally justified to assassinate their own leader. I too would feel that way if an actual Hitler came to power in this country. I would join the resistance and try to take out the Hitler-like leader. You should do the same. No one wants an actual President Hitler.

So I’ve decided to endorse Hillary Clinton for President, for my personal safety. Trump supporters don’t have any bad feelings about patriotic Americans such as myself, so I’ll be safe from that crowd. But Clinton supporters have convinced me – and here I am being 100% serious – that my safety is at risk if I am seen as supportive of Trump. So I’m taking the safe way out and endorsing Hillary Clinton for president.

As I have often said, I have no psychic powers and I don’t know which candidate would be the best president. But I do know which outcome is most likely to get me killed by my fellow citizens. So for safety reason, I’m on team Clinton.

My prediction remains that Trump will win in a landslide based on his superior persuasion skills. But don’t blame me for anything President Trump does in office because I endorse Clinton.

The rest of you are on your own. Good luck.


99 posted on 06/05/2016 8:23:39 PM PDT by GOPJ ("DHS Quietly Moving, Releasing Vanloads of Illegal Aliens Away from Border"-where's ABC, CBS, CNN???)
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To: entropy12

Lloyd Gruber and his fellow thugs need to read these comments from the man who writes Dilbert...

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/145456082991/my-endorsement-for-president-of-the-united-states

Dilbert logo Comics Blog

Scott Adams’ Blog
Top Tech Berkeley Start-ups
My Endorsement for President of the United States

Posted June 5th, 2016 @ 10:11am in #Trump #clinton2016

I’ve decided to come off the sidelines and endorse a candidate for President of the United States.

I’ll start by reminding readers that my politics don’t align with any of the candidates. My interest in the race has been limited to Trump’s extraordinary persuasion skills. But lately Hillary Clinton has moved into the persuasion game – and away from boring facts and policies – with great success. Let’s talk about that.

This past week we saw Clinton pair the idea of President Trump with nuclear disaster, racism, Hitler, the Holocaust, and whatever else makes you tremble in fear.

That is good persuasion if you can pull it off because fear is a strong motivator. It is also a sharp pivot from Clinton’s prior approach of talking about her mastery of policy details, her experience, and her gender. Trump took her so-called “woman card” and turned it into a liability. So Clinton wisely pivoted. Her new scare tactics are solid-gold persuasion. I wouldn’t be surprised if you see Clinton’s numbers versus Trump improve in June, at least temporarily, until Trump finds a counter-move.

The only downside I can see to the new approach is that it is likely to trigger a race war in the United States. And I would be a top-ten assassination target in that scenario because once you define Trump as Hitler, you also give citizens moral permission to kill him. And obviously it would be okay to kill anyone who actively supports a genocidal dictator, including anyone who wrote about his persuasion skills in positive terms. (I’m called an “apologist” on Twitter, or sometimes just Joseph Goebbels).

If Clinton successfully pairs Trump with Hitler in your mind – as she is doing – and loses anyway, about a quarter of the country will think it is morally justified to assassinate their own leader. I too would feel that way if an actual Hitler came to power in this country. I would join the resistance and try to take out the Hitler-like leader. You should do the same. No one wants an actual President Hitler.

So I’ve decided to endorse Hillary Clinton for President, for my personal safety. Trump supporters don’t have any bad feelings about patriotic Americans such as myself, so I’ll be safe from that crowd. But Clinton supporters have convinced me – and here I am being 100% serious – that my safety is at risk if I am seen as supportive of Trump. So I’m taking the safe way out and endorsing Hillary Clinton for president.

As I have often said, I have no psychic powers and I don’t know which candidate would be the best president. But I do know which outcome is most likely to get me killed by my fellow citizens. So for safety reason, I’m on team Clinton.

My prediction remains that Trump will win in a landslide based on his superior persuasion skills. But don’t blame me for anything President Trump does in office because I endorse Clinton.

The rest of you are on your own. Good luck.


100 posted on 06/05/2016 8:23:55 PM PDT by GOPJ ("DHS Quietly Moving, Releasing Vanloads of Illegal Aliens Away from Border"-where's ABC, CBS, CNN???)
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