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Is Ted Cruz more radical than Donald Trump?
KABC-TV ^ | April 11, 2016 | Timothy Stanley

Posted on 04/11/2016 5:58:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In “Through the Looking Glass,” the Queen tells Alice: “sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.” She might have choked on her grits, however, at the thought of Ted Cruz becoming the Republican nominee. Until a few weeks ago he was low in the polls and loathed by the GOP establishment. Sen. Lindsey Graham joked about murdering him. But now, the impossible has happened: Cruz’s unlikely emergence as the favorite to beat Donald Trump. His transformative win in Wisconsin. And even his unthinkable endorsement by Graham.

Can Ted believe this is happening? And does he — or his party — really understand what it all means? The impossibility of this story begins with the very character of Ted Cruz. He has Cuban heritage but somehow wound up an evangelical. He is unquestionably a cultural conservative, yet that rhetorical flourish was honed at Ivy League schools. He later became defined as a tea party outsider, but he began his political career by working for George W. Bush’s 2000 campaign — an effort that backfired because, as he admitted later, he made far more enemies than friends. The question of likeability dogs him to this day.

A lot of critics have written unpleasant articles about his face. In fact, it’s hard to think of a candidate who has attracted such mean and spiteful commentary. For proof that he’s both normal and soft-centered, one only has to view footage of him killing time during a debate break by playing with his daughter. All the same, the man is no Marco Rubio. While Rubio looked like he ought to win and lost in spite of it, Cruz is winning in spite of even George W. Bush — a famously laid back man — reportedly saying “I just don’t like that guy.”

But, then again, Cruz likely never imagined that he was going to be the front-runner. He thought he’d be running the classic conservative outsider candidacy: win Iowa, win the South, monopolize the religious vote. He narrowly pulled off the first part, the rest went wrong. Trump performed better among Southerners and evangelicals, which led many commentators to assume that Cruz was on the way out.

But in this year of surreal turns, Cruz’s assumption that he’d be the second-ranked candidate actually helped him survive the Trump tsunami. While the other candidates were focusing on big primaries, his staff was quietly preparing victories in caucuses and working hard behind the scenes to turn popular vote losses into more delegates than expected — as happened in Louisiana.

This approach paid off big time in Colorado, where Cruz campaigners achieved a clean sweep of all 34 delegates selected at byzantine conventions.

Remember, this strategy was originally intended just to keep Cruz in contention against a mainstream candidate like Jeb Bush. But deployed against Donald Trump, in a year where the race is astonishingly close, it’s actually turned him into the only credible choice for the establishment.

For instance, I’m told that Cruz’s people had every intention from the very beginning of exploiting Rule 40(b) to his advantage. This rule stipulates that only a candidate who has won delegate majorities in at least eight states can be nominated. It could be used to disqualify John Kasich — perhaps leaving Cruz as the only lawful alternative to The Donald at the convention, presuming he himself is judged to have met the criteria.

But there is yet another unexpected twist: In their rush to beat Trump, the party elite may find itself elevating a man who is even more radical than the person they’re trying to beat.

Trump is rhetorically extreme but on paper quite moderate. His shifting views on abortion are, I’m sure, the product of never having thought very hard about the subject — and the occasional foray into anti-Muslim prejudice or the war over Christmas are cover for an instinctual liberalism.

Trump is for universal health care, protecting U.S. industry and withdrawing from world affairs. Cruz, by contrast, would be one of the most conservative men ever to head the GOP ticket. He favors the gold standard, rejects orthodoxy on climate change, and likes the flat tax. His foreign policy could be summed up as “whatever is best for America.” He would carpet bomb ISIS, but only because it is an imminent threat. Libya, he would have avoided.

The difference between Trump and Cruz is that Trump is just a populist. Cruz is motivated by philosophy — a constitutionalism that has a libertarian streak. For example, Cruz does not personally approve of marijuana use but would allow the states to legislate on it. And his opposition to National Security Agency data gathering, the use of torture and ethanol subsidies all attest to his willingness to take on big government.

They reflect the rugged individualism of a very individualist candidate, and point to the fundamental paradox of the Cruz candidacy. What has made it resilient and a bold contrast to Trump is also what could make it frightening to many voters: its cool, calculating stubbornness.

I’m not of the view that Trump has lost the nomination. On the contrary, he remains the front-runner. But presuming that Cruz does win the nomination, there will have to be a reckoning. The party will probably discover that it can’t force a running-mate or policy choices on a man who only ever does things his way.

Cruz may discover that while the party is happy to dump Trump, it’s not so happy to be dictated to by another maverick. Both party and candidate will find themselves on the receiving end of attacks by a Democratic National Committee overjoyed to run against an ideologue.

Cruz’s nomination would be a legacy of Trump’s candidacy, and the way that it messed up the primary fight. It would change the GOP’s problems but not end them. That, I fear, really is an impossible task.


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To: lonestar67
like so many other cases he won and others he fought for

When you say so many other cases - there were only 9 cases. The two big losers I just cited leave the balance at 7. We can go through those in detail as well. But Cruz's arguments that states can rescind their contracts or leave someone to rot in jail after acknowledging that the state erred go to the character and lack of sensibilities of the individual - Cruz.

41 posted on 04/11/2016 7:49:31 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: napscoordinator
He’s the worst liberal running in both parties.

There are principled liberals. What we are seeing is an unscrupulous individual who will say anything and do anything to attain the right to do the bidding of his masters and overseers (the party elite, not the taxpayers).

42 posted on 04/11/2016 7:51:38 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

. . . or maybe the tenth amendment matters.


43 posted on 04/11/2016 7:54:31 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: AndyJackson

Interesting analysis on Brutus and on post #36. Thanks for that information.


44 posted on 04/11/2016 7:55:48 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: AndyJackson

last time I checked the sum of appearance by all other Republican candidates before the supreme court was ZERO.


45 posted on 04/11/2016 7:55:58 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: AndyJackson

You’ve got that right. I almost welcome Cruz going down hard in November. I wish it was a routine election so this creep could get that smirk ripped off his face.


46 posted on 04/11/2016 8:09:27 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reference mark.


47 posted on 04/11/2016 8:12:08 PM PDT by DonnerT (After all is said and done, it is God's Will that will be done.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Apparently the English have as firm a grasp on American politics as we have on their game of cricket.


48 posted on 04/11/2016 8:16:45 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: lonestar67
I think that Texas scruze supporters are for him just because he is from Texas (via Canada). I could outline for an hour all the reasons he should never be in the white house,and should just go the hell away. The scruzebots are mostly
the very meanest,nastiest,tone deaf,snotty,unrealistic,petty,childish,out of touch people with delusions of grandeur. No matter what honestly accurate negatives announced about scruze,the bots ignore them,or make up whoppers of excuses for his bad behavior. It is uncanny how so many Texans are throwing themselves in the gutter to back him,and it is so obvious. Have you done a fair evaluation of the students,and trump supporters? If you did you would be shocked,there us no contest.
49 posted on 04/11/2016 10:01:02 PM PDT by samantha (keep up the fight....)
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To: Tom Bombadil

I see Trump as already planning for, and preparing his voters for, a third party.
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Didn’t work out so great for Ralph Nader.


50 posted on 04/12/2016 1:00:47 AM PDT by octex
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To: lonestar67

#35 is a good posting. However, I disagree that Carson, Christie and Rubio are conservatives.


51 posted on 04/12/2016 1:28:14 AM PDT by octex
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To: lonestar67

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFXuGIpsdE0

10 minute video explaining our Republic vs. a Democracy. A bit long, but interesting. I get a kick out of the Trump supporters using Ben Franklin’s “A Republic if you can keep it” as a cry against the “unfair” lack of a primary nomination in Colorado.


52 posted on 04/12/2016 1:47:31 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
More radical and more "private" it would seem. Also bigger ego and willingness to adjust his "principles" as needed to further himself. One gets the impression he's putting his whole future into this election cycle and the collateral (The People) damage be damned.

Beware of the Kool-Aid because it will be offered.

53 posted on 04/12/2016 3:28:14 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: octex

Maybe Trump is smarter than that, and maybe he’s a get even sort of person. He has turned the Republican world upside down.


54 posted on 04/12/2016 4:34:09 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: octex

Maybe Trump is smarter than that, and maybe he’s a get even sort of person. He has turned the Republican world upside down.


55 posted on 04/12/2016 4:34:32 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: napscoordinator

A smile for you!


56 posted on 04/12/2016 4:36:36 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: octex

I get your point but I would still challenge freepers to line up the 16 former GOP candidates in an ideological order.

How much did trump attack them.

The more conservative they are the more he attacked them.

I think Christie is pretty liberal and that makes him a good lieutenant in the trump army for New York values.


57 posted on 04/12/2016 4:50:44 AM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is it more radical to return to principles the Founders considered America to be or to accept the changes we presently have seen which do not agree with these principles?

If the former, Ted is not radical at all.

And I do not think conservatism, by definition, is radical.

to put the term ‘radical’ in front of ‘conservatism’ is an oxymoron.

like saying a ‘gorgeous’ Hillary. Can’t exist.


58 posted on 04/12/2016 5:56:48 AM PDT by doldrumsforgop
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To: Defiant

“A lot of critics have written unpleasant articles about his face. In fact, it’s hard to think of a candidate who has attracted such mean and spiteful commentary.”

This line above made me laugh. Is this guy for real??

Un-freakin-believable

Sorry to say, these people are losing it. Wishing they could be honest is a wasted wish.


59 posted on 04/12/2016 9:32:14 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Teddy the TOOL - being used and lovin' it)
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