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Ted Cruz: It’s up to South Carolina to decide on Confederate flag
The Washington Post's Post Politics ^ | June 20, 2015 | Katie Zezima

Posted on 06/20/2015 11:51:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: DoodleDawg

The Southern States Of Course were denied their rights to govern themselves guaranteed by the Constitution.

You don’t think the fact that they had just waged a four year rebellion had something to do with that?
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The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT’S Intrusion into the affairs of the southern states was the REASON for the “Rebellion!” The 10th Amendment was ignored then as it is now! The GUARANTEE of STATES Rights has been TRAMPLED by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT until it effectively NO LONGER EXISTS!
The FEDS are even trying to tell us what our children should eat for lunch, that they should not have food they like or ever eat a piece of candy. They are to be indoctrinated into the acceptance of ABNORMAL SEXUAL ACTIVITY and every other factor that destroys the MORAL Foundations of this country.
The RESISTANCE of the South is the beginning of the revolt in this country and 1865 did not end it. This very web site exists to provide a place of dissension for the citizen. WHAT in all reality has changed in the last 150 years? The FEDS are still running the show and the guarantees of the Constitution are being ignored! In fact, the Constitution means little to nothing to the Administration and the Democrats! They are busy destroying it where possible, and ignoring it the rest of the time. That goes for the RINOS as well.
IMHO the Battle Flag of the Confederacy has an honored place in the history of this country. Its meaning has been distorted until nobody knows the truth.


81 posted on 06/21/2015 7:42:23 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1
The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT’S Intrusion into the affairs of the southern states was the REASON for the “Rebellion!”

Intruding in what way?

The 10th Amendment was ignored then as it is now! The GUARANTEE of STATES Rights has been TRAMPLED by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT until it effectively NO LONGER EXISTS! The FEDS are even trying to tell us what our children should eat for lunch, that they should not have food they like or ever eat a piece of candy. They are to be indoctrinated into the acceptance of ABNORMAL SEXUAL ACTIVITY and every other factor that destroys the MORAL Foundations of this country.

Totally irrelevant. Blah, blah, blah.

The RESISTANCE of the South is the beginning of the revolt in this country and 1865 did not end it.

It pretty much did, yeah.

This very web site exists to provide a place of dissension for the citizen.

Nobody here is calling for a rebellion.

WHAT in all reality has changed in the last 150 years? The FEDS are still running the show and the guarantees of the Constitution are being ignored! In fact, the Constitution means little to nothing to the Administration and the Democrats! They are busy destroying it where possible, and ignoring it the rest of the time. That goes for the RINOS as well.

More irrelevancy. Yadda, yadda, yadda.

IMHO the Battle Flag of the Confederacy has an honored place in the history of this country. Its meaning has been distorted until nobody knows the truth.

Well, almost nobody. But regardless, you should be free to fly the Confederate flag if you want no matter how poor your understanding of the history of the conflict is. Many people view it as a symbol of slavery. Be that as it may that doesn't give them the right to prevent others for honoring the flag regardless of their reasons. The Constitution gives the first party the right to express their anger. It does not protect them from what is angering them.

82 posted on 06/21/2015 10:10:53 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 9YearLurker

One can and do argue the causes of the civil war but citing Wiki is a poor start

But our next civil war will start for just two reasons

Weakness and stupidity


83 posted on 06/21/2015 10:17:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (#jon snow mattered)
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To: DoodleDawg

Well, almost nobody. But regardless, you should be free to fly the Confederate flag if you want no matter how poor your understanding of the history of the conflict is. Many people view it as a symbol of slavery. Be that as it may that doesn’t give them the right to prevent others for honoring the flag regardless of their reasons. The Constitution gives the first party the right to express their anger. It does not protect them from what is angering them.

On THAT we agree!


84 posted on 06/21/2015 10:18:20 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: advertising guy

AND MINE!


85 posted on 06/21/2015 10:20:21 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Steely Tom

I guess compared to what?

Compared to where they came from if they were lucky enough to end up on smaller farms in North America versus Hispañola or Brasíl

Then they might have preferred it

Slaves were a higher investment for smaller farms and tended paradoxically to be cared for more like the master

On large grows there was more distinction between master and slave and the overseer was by default the master for all but house servants

Life expectancy in North America was higher than in tribal Africa

But those elsewhere in the Americas lived much harder as did everyone but the top

Just answering your question

No one ever really talks about this

People are afraid

I’ll tell you this being old enough to know several black culture eras

When I was young during segregation and don’t fool yourself it’s not just the south

The north is still replete with ghetto....segregated

Blacks were happier and friendlier and more cohesive and more religious

Being enslaved to bring a race of people’s to civilization is complicated and not easy

I’m very pessimistic at this point

For every Ben Carson there are 100s the opposite being fed hatred while America looks for sound bite fixes


86 posted on 06/21/2015 10:29:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (#jon snow mattered)
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To: wardaddy

Lots of links to real sources, including groups of historians included. But really—’twas only a defense of very basic history, without defensive Southern revisionism.


87 posted on 06/21/2015 11:18:03 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: DoodleDawg

That’t it! I Cruz just lost my vote! There, fixed it ;-)


88 posted on 06/21/2015 4:47:30 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: Mollypitcher1

Are you from the South? How do you know it isn’t tradition?

Since this is Cruz’s strike two....I guess you liked Romney’s answer then?

What a clown you are...seriously, he gives the best answer and you criticize it. Tell us, Molly, who do you REALLY support?


89 posted on 06/21/2015 4:49:12 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: Paulie

You are right...

And many of those uneducated are right here on FR.

Go Cruz!


90 posted on 06/21/2015 4:50:20 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: napscoordinator

Naps, how did Walker handle this issue...or did he flip flop on this one like he did immigration?


91 posted on 06/21/2015 4:50:44 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: TNMOUTH

I haven’t decided who I REALLY support as I have stated on numerous threads.

Yes, I am from a state deprived of it’s ability to leave the union by Lincoln who had the legislature arrested so they couldn’t meet and take the necessary steps to secede. Maryland was a border state. The Eastern Shore fought with the Army of Northern Virginia. The Western Shore fought beside Pennsylvania for the Yankees. The Eastern Shore was, is, and always will be traditionally southern.

I did NOT like Romney’s answer, nor any of the other RINO answers. NO outsider should even have a say about what the state does. I believe in the 10th Amendment. After all, that’s what the war was all about.

I also believe in the 10th Amendment and don’t go around calling people names like “clown.”


92 posted on 06/21/2015 5:04:23 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1

Correction: I also believe in the lst and SECOND Amendments and don’t go around calling people names like “clown.” I don’t have to call people names like Democrats and some Rep’s do.


93 posted on 06/21/2015 5:12:12 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1

Then what is your issue with Cruz’s answer if you claim to support the 10th?


94 posted on 06/21/2015 5:19:47 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: TNMOUTH

Cruz took the easy road, that the state should decide. The state had ALREADY decided. Cruz gave a politicians answer instead of saying the state had already decided and it was nobody else’s business. I have followed and supported Cruz for years. Lately, he seems to be playing the political game and not putting his foot down and standing up against the crowd which is what I admired in him. His sell-out on the Fast Track proposal is the MAJOR strike against him and boy, was I ever disappointed. AND I do not swallow his excuses for the way he has voted. He swore to fight Obama and all he has done is hand him more power!


95 posted on 06/21/2015 5:30:36 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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