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Ted Cruz: It’s up to South Carolina to decide on Confederate flag
The Washington Post's Post Politics ^ | June 20, 2015 | Katie Zezima

Posted on 06/20/2015 11:51:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

JOHNSTON, Iowa – Sen. Ted Cruz says whether or not South Carolina removes the Confederate flag from a state house memorial is an issue for the state to decide and that he sees “both sides” of the debate.

In an interview with The Washington Post on Saturday, Cruz (R-Tex.) said that he understands why people equate the flag with both racial oppression and historical traditions.

“I understand the passions that this debate evokes on both sides,” the GOP presidential hopeful said. “Both those who see a history of racial oppression and a history of slavery, which is the original sin of our nation, and we fought a bloody civil war to expunge that sin.”

He added: “But I also understand those who want to remember the sacrifices of their ancestors and the traditions of their states, not the racial oppression, but the historical traditions, and I think often this issue is used as a wedge to try to divide people.”

Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. the 2012 Republican presidential nominee, said Saturday that the flag should be taken down....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: South Carolina; Texas; Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016election; charleston; confederateflag; dixie; election2016; romney; southcarolina; tedcruz; texas
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To: Mollypitcher1

Regardless of what some soldiers did or did not believed - the South’s stated goal was to fight for the right to continue of slavery. A horrific genocide that caused the death of millions and has caused generations of consequences that we still deal with today. The millions of slaves who were raped, murdered, beaten, and tortured would call the south aggressors.

This is not a debatable. The south was nice enough to admit it and write it down for us before the war.


41 posted on 06/20/2015 12:39:49 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Mollypitcher1
That’s strike two for me.

If half your reason for not supporting Ted Cruz is because he doesn't sign on to your revisionist version of history then I'd be fascinated to know what the other reason is.

42 posted on 06/20/2015 12:41:08 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Damn straight.


43 posted on 06/20/2015 12:41:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Both those who see a history of racial oppression and a history of slavery, which is the original sin of our nation, and we fought a bloody civil war to expunge that sin.”

Huh?


44 posted on 06/20/2015 12:41:48 PM PDT by McGruff (It's gonna get ugly round here.)
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To: Mollypitcher1

Of course slavery was the reason for the War of Southern Aggression. The only (singular) “states right” that any of the slavers were interested in was the right to own other human beings.


45 posted on 06/20/2015 12:42:22 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: McGruff

You don’t see chattel slavery that way?


46 posted on 06/20/2015 12:44:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Mollypitcher1
A polished politician knows how to dodge the truth. That’s strike two for me.

I'm glad you know how important it is for FReepers to know where n00bs stand.
47 posted on 06/20/2015 12:44:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: DoodleDawg

And while you’re waiting for her answer, look at her “born-on” date.


48 posted on 06/20/2015 12:45:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: bkopto; tsowellfan

Some say he looks an awful lot like Malcolm X.


49 posted on 06/20/2015 12:47:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: advertising guy; Steely Tom
"...mostly they were treated with respect , buried with honor, and remembered in family Bibles..."

We do that with dogs, cats, horses and other pets & livestock. Doesn't make them human.

50 posted on 06/20/2015 12:50:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Kale; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; MountainDad; ...
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51 posted on 06/20/2015 12:55:34 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Andy'smom

Ted Cruz - sounds like a states’ rights man to me!

A respect for the Constitution must be restored. A man who understands who we are and why we formed a more perfect union is a man destined for the White House.

Unfortunately Mr. Cruz is working against generations of publically ‘educated’ kids who have little or no understanding of what that document is and what it means.


52 posted on 06/20/2015 12:56:03 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420060/confederate-flag-should-stay-charleston-shooting-debate


53 posted on 06/20/2015 12:57:38 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
This topic should never have come up. It's going to stir up more crap. Romney was a fool to mention it.

While we're at it, who's the idiot that brought up the $10 bill issue? The country is going in the crapper faster than Cloward-Piven could have dreamed and some asshole thinks it's a priority to put a new face on a currency note?

54 posted on 06/20/2015 12:59:40 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Parmy
Certainly. The people of the states are the ones to decide this. But other people will have and express opinions.

It was wrong of journalists to press the governor on the flag when she was trying to reassure people and bring them together, but when things like this happen, people are going to comment on them and use what happened to promote their own agenda.

55 posted on 06/20/2015 1:19:03 PM PDT by x
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Based on what the clown who did the shooting is claimed to have said, he would be more at home with a Nazi flag not a CSA flag.

I don’t think it would fly in the north, but if SC is Ok with it, then I’m not going to say anything about it.


56 posted on 06/20/2015 1:21:30 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: advertising guy

“Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition.” Alexander Stephens


57 posted on 06/20/2015 1:33:27 PM PDT by stormer
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To: x
Certainly. The people of the states are the ones to decide this. But other people will have and express opinions. It was wrong of journalists to press the governor on the flag when she was trying to reassure people and bring them together, but when things like this happen, people are going to comment on them and use what happened to promote their own agenda.

That's the problem. All of these people have an agenda that is evidenced by their comments. But, they are also know by their comments and their ignorance of the Constitution or willingness to not abide by it.

58 posted on 06/20/2015 2:02:05 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: CatherineofAragon

Walker, Bush, and Kasich are avoiding the issue.

Very wise move since none of them are from South Carolina. Walker is working and needs to keep his nose in Wisconsin and getting things done. Cruz once again is out and about talking.....never saw a microphone he didn’t like.

Walker working hard in his state
Cruz should be in Texas or at least DC working.


59 posted on 06/20/2015 2:11:50 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: napscoordinator

Enjoy your establishment boy, then. He seems to suit you. Give me a man who isn’t afraid to take a stance.


60 posted on 06/20/2015 3:06:29 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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