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Cruz roundup: Social Security plan, pitch-perfect speech, South Carolina logjam
The Dallas Morning News' Trail Blazer Blog ^ | June 8, 2015 | Sylvan Lane

Posted on 06/08/2015 1:58:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sen. Ted Cruz outlined how he would fix Social Security, striking a balance between candidates who propose immediate cuts and those who wish to leave it mostly in place.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

Cruz said he’d keep benefits the same for seniors and those close to retirement in a June 4 interview with Fox News’ Neil Cavuto. For everyone else, he’d propose gradually increasing the retirement age, limiting the increase in benefits to the inflation rate and allowing workers to keep some of their tax payment in a private account.

Cruz makes strong impression on conservative non-profit

The Council for National Policy–a secretive, conservative non-profit focused on legislative initiatives and political strategy–is looking to unite behind one conservative candidate in 2016. Cruz might be their guy, according to National Journal.

While other candidates gave stump speeches at May CNP meeting near Washington, D.C., Cruz pitched himself as a true conservative who could unite the movement behind him and capture the Republican nomination. Even employees of other 2016 hopefuls were impressed by Cruz: one gave his speech a 14 on a 10-point scale....

(Excerpt) Read more at trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: South Carolina; Texas; Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016election; conservatives; cruz; election2016; socialsecurity; southcarolina; tedcruz; texas
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To: House Atreides
"Jeez, the more you “talk”...the more it becomes apparent that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about."

Well, if I don't know what I am talking about, you don't know what you are reading about. The benefits computation has nothing to do with means testing. If your income from OTHER sources stays at given level (say, $ 300K+) for a couple years following the beginning of benefits, then it would be equitable for benefits to drop off (or perhaps would be severely cut back until your contributions were repaid then dropped). Think about it before you "talk", my FRiend.

The contribution level that most retirees have experienced is somewhere around $ 4000 per year (rough number based upon 7.5% contribution on $ 50K limit no matter how much they made; I am aware it is now much higher but this change is just in the past few years not the average of the retirees lifetime). Even if you try to stretch this into a retirement plan. Thus, in a matter of 4 years, the average retiree has recovered ALL that they contributed in 30 years. Pick any interest rate and see that in 5 years tops the rich have recovered all they were taxed...and, yes, it was a tax not a retirement plan.

101 posted on 06/09/2015 2:22:46 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: DoodleDawg

http://www.ssa.gov/planners/survivors/onyourown4.html


102 posted on 06/09/2015 2:23:22 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: EternalVigilance
And now the only way you can get what you think you're entitled to is to lie to, and steal from, our children and grandchildren.

Nope. We can cut spending. Working Americans who worked hard and played by the rules should not be the first people we look at when we discuss making the system solvent again.

We should not be punishing the hardworking ants because there are too many lazy grasshoppers. The grasshoppers are SOL AFAIC.

103 posted on 06/09/2015 2:31:00 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: Lakeshark
"If he is worth 50 mil as you say, there is no way he put in that little.

Hundreds of thousands more than he put in? It's. Not. Possible."

Oh, my FRiend, you are not familiar with the SS tax system if you believe such a thing. If our neighbor gets $ 35K per year (approx. correct) and paid in $ 120K ($ 4000 for 30 years), he recovered all his contribution in 4+ years. The power of math, my FRiend. That means when he retired at say 62, by 67 he was restored completely. Then by 84, he got $ 980,000 of our dollars for greens fees. Yes, that is a million dollars of money from our pockets, not his.

And, he has $ 50 million of his own. Did you get a thank you card? This is not envy...it is a practical example of the "bottomless pockets" theory that Obama (and apparently a bunch of crazies around here) think should continue because, because, because WE ARE ENTITELED TO IT!!!! Yes, give those illegals free citizenship, after all they broke into the house so they deserve it! Give the rich more dough, since they deserve it. Good grief folks, WAKE UP.

104 posted on 06/09/2015 2:32:11 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: EternalVigilance

It most certainly is reasonable to expect it, it most certainly is reasonable, rational and moral to expect the government to keep its’ promise or compensate you if it can’t. It is also constitutional according to the Supreme Court. Though they do what they want anyway.

It certainly isn’t the fault of the wealthy or working people that the government stole the resources to give to other people.


105 posted on 06/09/2015 2:43:18 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: thesharkboy
"So you’re a socialist who believes in taking money from producers and giving it to the undeserving. Thanks for clearing that up for the forum."

No, I am a true conservative trying to protect the Republic from nutjobs who want to empty our pockets and give it to Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, et al. Check the mirror.

106 posted on 06/09/2015 2:45:19 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Kale; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; MountainDad; ...
    Ted Cruz Ping!

    If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.
    Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!

    CRUZ or LOSE!

107 posted on 06/09/2015 2:54:50 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Dutchboy88

You might want to check out Das Kapital, Dutchboy. It has lots of ideas very similar to yours (hint: It was written by the guy who came up with “From each according to his abilities...”). Reading it might lead you to better know yourself.


108 posted on 06/09/2015 3:00:46 PM PDT by thesharkboy (posting without reading the article since 1998)
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To: ex-snook

Yeah right....why not have his 60 grand above the cap be taxed in Social Security. It must be nice to get a free 7.5 percent on 60 grand. He is so above his head. Walker needs to announce to be done with Cruz once and for all.


109 posted on 06/09/2015 3:10:32 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: Dutchboy88
If he had 50 mil (as you suggest) why in the world did he work at all? Who works for someone when they have 50 mil? If he made this 50 mil, then he paid a lot more than 120K. Whatever was taken from his was an average of 12.3% of his salary for the past thirty years, just like yours, and just like mine.

Frankly, this sounds like a huge made up story by you, plus your math really doesn't work, it's democrat math (35k x 5 does not equal what he paid in, and 35k x 22 does not equal 980k), nothing real about your example.

You really need to work on your envy problem, which is the real issue here. You're going to get the same as him. Man up and stop whining about someone else who has more than you, or go to KOS and do it there.

110 posted on 06/09/2015 3:12:20 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: sphinx

Raise the cap to 250K and all will be good for 40 years.


111 posted on 06/09/2015 3:12:43 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: justlurking

So SSDi will stay but those who worked their entire lives will be out of luck. Wonderful.


112 posted on 06/09/2015 3:13:48 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: thesharkboy

And, you can crawl back to the DU. Others that also cannot also (like BO) are waiting there for you.


113 posted on 06/09/2015 3:18:13 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Lakeshark

If you ever get around to reading the posts, instead of blowing off at the keyboard, you would know that he got the big pop from selling his company. And, no, he paid in exactly what I said. Sorry you have a handicap.


114 posted on 06/09/2015 3:19:54 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
I'm just sorry you're so envious, you have a real problem there.

You're going to get as much as he will, how is that unfair?

What a KOS loving putz.

115 posted on 06/09/2015 3:23:00 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark
"What a KOS loving putz."

Well, if ad hominem arguments are the best you have, it is no wonder we are in trouble. When the so-called "trust fund" is empty, we'll give you a call for suggestions.

116 posted on 06/09/2015 3:26:40 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Lakeshark

Sic em! Lakeshark! :)


117 posted on 06/09/2015 3:33:44 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: RC one

Wrong. Every single penny paid out in the unconstitutional socialist insecurity system is being stolen from those who are being robbed now.

You simply don’t want to face that, because you’re entitled, you think. Most Ponzi scheme participants share that same sense, I guess.


118 posted on 06/09/2015 4:28:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Those promises were unconstitutional lies.

And I’ll believe James Madison before I believe Franklin Roosevelt’s Supreme Court.


119 posted on 06/09/2015 4:31:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Dutchboy88

DU is full of people who advocate means testing and redistribution of wealth. You’d fit right I there. You, and those like you, are exactly what’s wrong with the GOP and with this country. Compassionate Conservatism is neither compassionate nor conservative. That description also fits you.


120 posted on 06/09/2015 4:45:22 PM PDT by thesharkboy (posting without reading the article since 1998)
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