Posted on 02/24/2015 7:07:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Sen. Ted Cruz is getting close to announcing his candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination. The Texan is spending almost as much time in Iowa and New Hampshire as he does on Fox News; he's hired a staff and collected a long list of fiercely conservative supporters..
There's at least one hitch: Ted Cruz was born in Calgary, in the Canadian province of Alberta. His mother was a U.S. citizen, born in Delaware; his father, a Cuban refugee working in Canada's oil fields. Thanks to his mother, Cruz was a U.S. citizen at birth.
But that doesn't clear up a legal muddle that's as old as the Constitution: Is a U.S. citizen born abroad qualified to serve as president?
I don't agree with Cruz on most issues. He wants to repeal Obamacare, abolish the Internal Revenue Service and pass a constitutional amendment allowing states to outlaw gay marriage, just to take the top of his list. But I still hope he runs — because it's high time we established the right of Canadian-born Americans to serve as president.
Canadian Americans are perhaps our most underappreciated minority. Their contributions to U.S. culture range from hockey to comedy to, well, hockey. It's an impressive list: Wayne Gretzky, William Shatner, Lorne Michaels, Jim Carrey, Pamela Anderson, Alex Trebek. And now Ted Cruz.
At this point I should confess a personal stake: My oldest daughter was born in Toronto. Like Ted Cruz, she inherited U.S. citizenship through one of her parents. But we assured her that she could grow up to be president of the United States. (Proud of her dual citizenship, she says she'd like to serve as prime minister of Canada too.)
Canada is a wonderful country.....
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“McCain was not eligible to be President”
His father was in the US military stationed at Panama and his mother was also there. Every US military post in any country is considered American soil plus both his parents were citizens but if one had been a citizen, he would still be an American citizen. McCain was a US citizen when he was born. A person is natural born if no court document is required to make him/her a citizen. A naturalized citizen is not natural born citizen as a court document is required to make him/her a citizen.
Please cite case law or statute to support your claim that somehow the word natural born citizen has a legal meaning other than the one I referred to as being a citizen at birth. I will not hold my breath for it of course as it does not to the best of my knowledge exists, in fact there are so few incidences where the legal concept comes up that it is almost a nullity in US law. The legal definition I pointed to is one of the few that is used at any time in US law.
Infatuation won't like it much, but it needed to be said.
From a certain point of view, we are commanded to honor our Fathers and if we had, we would have avoided what is now our reality and soon to be our worldly ordered destination.
But infatuation says, "Get out of the way. We want what we want and rules are made to be broken."
And so it shall be...so say we all.
You simply REFUSE to understand. This is NOT complicated. ALL that matters is WHAT did the phrase NATURAL BORN mean when it was incorporated into the Constitution. If you look to statutes or case law, YOU LOSE.
Your idea that a military base in a foreign country constitutes American SOIL is wishful thinking on your part.
No. The LA Times didn’t ask about Dear Ones problematic birth circumstance... But we did. And now, knowing that Cruz was not born in America, most conservatives seem to have no problem with being hypocritical on this issue. I repeat... Ted Cruz was NOT born in America. This used to be a universally accepted disqualification. What happened to change it?
What does HMS stand for?
In any case, HMS Surprise's attitude towards the US military is duly noted.
Don't go there.
Because, then, any Panamanian baby dropped on the base would be a natural born citizen. And that's not the case.
McCain is a natural born citizen because of this parentage, not because of where he was born.
Actually that does not apply in this case. When I was stationed in Japan we had female sailors, who married Japanese Men(very rare) but the few cases we did have, those children were considered by our government in having dual citizenship with their U.S. Citizenship trumping that the host nation.
I am not a citizenship lawyer nor do I play one on TV, but I am aware that American Citizenship by either parent goes to their children by default. When I was in the military, one of our contractors and his Greek Wife were killed in a car accident in 1997, the children were sent by the Greek American Embassy to the States as they we considered Americans Citizens to live with his Parents.
Understanding of NBC use to be more widespread in previous decades. (wayback here i previously submitted proof of such understanding several years ago)
I’m surprised at the lack of respect many Freepers have for the Constitution.
Citizenship is NOT the issue. The issue is a special kind of citizenship call NATURAL BORN citizenship. Cruz was born a citizen, he was NOT born naturally a citizen. Statutes were required to manifest his status. Freepers need to wake up.
The hypocrisy of Freepers is equally mind-boggling. My wife is not interested in politics.. AT ALL. I just asked her a SIMPLE question: If you are born outside the United States, can you be President? Her answer was instant.. NO. Ted Cruz CANNOT be President unless the Constitution is ignored. Love him, I’m sorry.
Perhaps it boggles your mind. Not mine.
Freepers do not have the responsibility of being impartial purveyors of information. The news media deserve every ounce of criticism for their leftwing advocacy.
Ted Cruz without a doubt respects and intends to uphold the Constitution, Barack Obama is disassembling it. So motives are another big difference.
If getting a Constitutional purist in a position to undo the damage that the SOB currently in the White House has inflicted means sometimes playing by the lefts rules, then I'm a hypocrite, too. I'm tired of the other side cheating and winning.
I'm surprised the left is raising the issue of eligibility. Especially since so many on the right are doing such a bang-up job of doing it for them.
If that were true then the child of any foreign national who happened to be born on the base would be a U.S. citizen. And I don't think that's true.
Then what is needed to clarify? What source defines natural born citizen solely as you define it? And what source says it's right?
Like its a damn football game and the future of the country isn't hanging in the balance. Fools.
“If that were true then the child of any foreign national who happened to be born on the base would be a U.S. citizen.”
It only applies to American military CONNECTED to that base. Even if the military lives off the base, they are still connected to that base and retain their American citizenship.
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