Posted on 07/27/2014 2:33:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Our divisions are phony: There's broad agreement on more issues. Here's how we convert the Tea Party.
Elizabeth Warren’s rock star reception at Netroots Nation came as a surprise to absolutely no one, but not so her popularity as a draw for red state Democrats running for Senate, like West Virginia’s Natalie Tennant or Kentucky’s Alison Lundergan Grimes.
Yet, there shouldn’t be anything surprising about Warren’s broad economic populist appeal. It was, after all, the foundation of Democratic Party power from 1932 through 1968, a period in which Democrats won seven of nine presidential elections and controlled both houses of Congress continuously with only two brief blips in 1946 and 1952. It was a period of single-party dominance unmatched by any other in U.S. history, except for the First Party System, which the Democratic Republicans dominated so thoroughly from 1800 on that the opposition Federalist Party eventually just disappeared. The New Deal era may have been a long time ago, but its political basics remain as popular as ever — as seen in programs like Social Security and Medicare, which even conservative Republicans think we’re spending too little on. What’s been lacking in recent years is the political leadership and infrastructure to tap into that popular sentiment, which is just where Elizabeth Warren comes in.
Indeed, while 2016 is still a long way off, there’s good reason to believe that having Warren on the ticket could be the key to a Democratic victory that would finally break through the logjam of Republican obstructionism — despite a mountain of conventional wisdom to the contrary, which claims that it simply can’t be done, that what is now must forever be. In a recent piece for the National Journal, “Half of America,” Ronald Brownstein did a particularly adept job at laying out the conventional wisdom case for inevitable structural gridlock. Whichever president from whichever party, he argued, the pattern remains the same:
In one key respect, each president’s tenure has followed a similar arc. Each initially sought the White House promising to bridge the nation’s widening partisan divide. Clinton pledged to transcend “brain-dead policies in both parties” with his “New Democrat” agenda. Bush declared himself a “compassionate conservative” who would govern as “a uniter, not a divider.” Obama emerged with his stirring 2004 Democratic convention speech, evoking the shared aspirations of red and blue America, and took office embodying convergence and reconciliation.
But by this point in their respective second terms, each man faced the stark reality that the country was more divided than it was when he took office.
Of course there are obvious differences that Brownstein ignores, beyond the fact that Clinton and Obama both won their elections, while Bush won a lawsuit instead. Most notably, both Clinton and Obama really did try to reach out to Republicans — and were both soundly rebuffed for their troubles. Neither enjoyed the traditional presidential honeymoon period. Bush, on the other hand, was more moderate in style than in substance, as shown by his out-of-the-gate insistence on massive tax cuts, passed at the cost of losing the Republicans their majority control of the Senate, as it helped precipitate Vermont Sen. Jim Jeffords’ departure from the party — a fitting testament to Bush’s alleged moderation. But blindness to such differences is par for the course, the entry fee for punditocracy membership.
Brownstein goes on to describe the problem as “persistent polarization” due to “structural forces” creating “an environment in which presidents now find it almost impossible to sustain public or legislative support beyond their core coalition.” And in turn, he argues that this goes back to “institutional changes” turning Congress into “a quasi-parliamentary institution” and an underlying “deeper divide in the public itself” between rival non-overlapping voter coalitions, “younger, racially diverse, more secular, and heavily urbanized” on the Democratic side, and “older, more religiously devout, largely nonurban, and preponderantly white” on the Republican side. All this is quite familiar, and much of it is even true — as far as it goes. But its evenhanded treatment consistently glosses over at least two fundamental asymmetries, beyond the differences already noted.
First, the Democratic coalition is larger than the GOP coalition — Republicans have won just one presidential election since 1988 with more than 50 percent, Bush’s reelection in 2004 … the closest reelection since Woodrow Wilson’s in 1916. Their current House majority is built on pure gerrymandering — House Democrats got half a million more votes than Republicans did in the last election. Republicans can keep up only by keeping Democratic voters down. They cannot compete on a level playing field. Voter suppression, political intimidation, mud-slinging that turns people off to politics completely, these are overwhelmingly Republican weapons of choice, because the two coalitions are not equally balanced. Smaller, off-year electorates favor Republicans. If everyone votes, Democrats win consistently. That’s not a sign of two equally large political coalitions.
Second, the Republicans are more ideologically extreme, dogmatic and uncompromising, as well as being far more reliant on long-range deep-pocket funding to shape the political landscape/battlefield. This combination makes them tactically strong, at the cost of being strategically vulnerable, but only if Democrats are willing to challenge and change the way that politics is played. The Democrats’ numerically dominant big-tent, loose coalition, on-the-one-hand/on-the-other-hand approach makes it child’s play for the Republicans to engage in tactical divide-and-conquer games, primarily because Democrats have taken their eyes off the ball, the underlying populist economic vision that appeals to virtually all elements in their coalition—and many Republicans as well.
Putting Warren on the ticket in 2016 — either in the top spot or as vice president — would help Democrats take maximum advantage of the first asymmetry, and overcome the disadvantage of the second one. And that’s not just my own pet theory. We have a solid set of polling data from 2008 to support this view (presented and analyzed here), polling data showing John Edwards — the most populist candidate in the field — giving candidate Obama a substantial boost from the V.P. slot against any of the GOP tickets he was tested against, a boost unmatched by any other V.P. candidate tested. Indeed, the boost was so significant that based on polling data in early July, an Obama/Edwards ticket put Georgia, Texas, both Carolinas and Mississippi into the toss-up category, while putting Montana and North Dakota into “lean Obama.” You want a “map-changer”? Edwards was the very definition of one — and Warren could be one, too. Perhaps most dramatically, Edwards expanded Obama’s lead in safe state electoral votes from just over 2-1 (207-90) to over 5-1 (286-52) , an electoral map change so profound it could not help having profound implications for House and Senate races as well.
The data I’m referring to derives from a series of polls conducted by Survey USA after both party primaries were over, in which they paired Obama and McCain with a wide range of potential V.P. nominees. Sarah Palin was not included, but Michael Bloomberg was, on both sides of the contest. SUSA did its polling in two main rounds, with a different mix of V.P. candidate in each. Edwards was part of the first round, featuring stronger candidates on both sides. It’s particularly instructive to compare how he did with “popular son” candidates — like Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania, Jim Webb of Virginia and Bill Richardson of New Mexico — as well as looking at his performance in bellwether states like Iowa and Ohio.
In Iowa, John Edwards gave Obama almost a 10 percent average advantage over all the McCain-headed tickets (Huckabee, Lieberman, Pawlenty, Romney) he was polled against. The only other Democrat to help Obama at all was James Webb, who added about 1 percent. Bloomberg lost Obama less than 1 percent, while McCaskill lost him more than 4 percent, Hagel lost him almost 7 percent, and Sebelius and Ed Rendell lost him 10 percent.
In Ohio, Edwards helped Obama by an average of just under 5 percent — the only V.P. candidate to do so. Ed Rendell — former governor of the neighboring state of Pennsylvania, lost almost 7 percent on average.
Speaking of Pennsylvania, in that state Obama was beating McCain by 8 points, while Edwards helped him add an average of 5.5 percent. Favorite son Ed Rendell only added 1.25 percent.
In Missouri, Obama’s lead in one round became a deficit in the next. Looking only within rounds, Edwards helped Obama by an average of 4.5 points, while favorite daughter Claire McCaskill only helped him by .66 points against a much weaker V.P. field.
In New Mexico, Richardson had by far the strongest favorite son showing. He helped Obama by adding a very respectable average of 4 points. Edwards did 50 percent better — he added an average 6 points, against a much stronger V.P. field.
In New York, Edwards added 6 points, Bloomberg added nothing (against a weaker V.P. field), and everyone else lost ground — anywhere from 5 to 9 points.
In Virginia, Edwards added 6 points to Obama’s margin, while Virginia Sen. Jim Webb added just over 2 points, and Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine added nothing.
I selected these states for obvious reasons. But Edwards was even more impressive in some other states. In Minnesota, for example, Edwards was the only V.P. candidate to help Obama, rather than harm him, even helping Obama by 2 percent facing McCain paired with favorite son Tim Pawlenty.
In the end, of course, Edwards turned out to be a deeply flawed individual, much less a deeply flawed candidate. But that’s not what these poll figures were about. They were about the resonance of his populist “Two Americas” campaign theme — a resonance that only grew more intense after the Wall Street crash that September.
In one broad measure of how much impact Edwards had, I looked at all the variance in the different poll matchups as providing a measure of the potential swing in each state. I then looked at how well Obama did with Edwards in each state. Looking at a 15-state average, Edwards reduced the swing by 14 percent — and he cut Obama’s worst performance in each state by the same 14 percent average, raising the floor, as it were. That figure never fell into single digits for any of the states, a strong indication of how consistent and broad-based his populist impact was.
I also looked at how much Edwards helped with specific sub-groups in various states. In Ohio, for example, Obama had a 6-point lead among white males, but with Edwards on the ticket his lead ranged from 10 to 23 points. Among Virginia white females, Obama trailed by 6 points, but with Edwards on the ticket, he won by 5 to 14 points. Among New Mexico seniors, Obama trailed by 4 points, but with Edwards, he only lost by 1 point against a single V.P. pairing, and won the demographic with three other pairings, up to a high of 12 points. These are just a few samples showing how Edwards helped Obama in a range of states with groups that aren’t part of the traditional liberal core.
Finally, in early July, I looked at how Edwards would help Obama nationwide, using the average bump he provided in each state SUSA had polled, and the average of all his state averages for all other states. I used a simple poll-averaging model from my Open Left blog mate Chris Bowers as my baseline, which showed Obama leading McCain in electoral votes by almost 100, 293-194 (with 51 toss-ups), and a popular vote lead of 48,3 percent to 43.8 percent. In solid states — those with a margin of 9 points or more — Obama led McCain by more than 2-1, 207-90. But with Edwards on the ticket, Obama’s electoral vote lead expanded to over 250, 344-90 (with 104 toss-ups), and a popular vote lead of 51.5 percent to 40.0 percent. In solid states, Obama’s lead soared to over 5-1, 286-52.
In short, with Edwards on the ticket, Obama was ahead in a map-changing avalanche. And all the data supporting this conclusion comes from months before the Wall Street crash. There’s every reason to believe that Warren would have a similar, if not greater impact in 2016 — it’s just that no one has bothered to gather the relevant data, at least not yet.
There’s a strong probability that Hillary Clinton will be elected president in 2016. The GOP field is a mess, and the media’s desperate attempts to revive corpses like Chris Christie and Rick Perry only makes the picture even clearer. But the attacks on Clinton will surely escalate exponentially, putting the prospects of a landslide in doubt, no matter how inadequate the GOP candidate turns out to be. The Edwards record from 2008 strongly suggests that Warren as V.P. could help to ensure that landslide — and with it, a workable Democratic majority in both houses of Congress, even despite the intense GOP gerrymandering that currently has the House paralyzed.
What happens after that will be crucial, of course. If, like Obama and her husband before her, Clinton tries to “move to the center” and spurn her party base, then the 2018 midterms will be yet another disaster, and political gridlock and dysfunction will continue in the years ahead. The Ron Brownsteins of the world will be “vindicated.” But if Elizabeth Warren does have some influence, if Clinton does learn from past Democratic mistakes, then maybe, just maybe, we could see America break with its recent history of almost 50 years dominated by divided government and return to a more traditional, more functional political pattern, in which one party — and its vision — dominates for a period of decades, and the other party survives by adapting to the world that the dominant party has created.
The raw numbers tell us this is the direction America wants to go in. Elizabeth Warren could be the key to getting us there. Otherwise, it’s endless deadlock, as far as the eye can see.
“compassionate conservative” - RINO liberalism.
Early in W’s first term, he allowed “Ted-the-swimmer” to write the new Federal Education bill. That defined him as just another liberal to me.
When he began pushing amnesty and refused to build the wall, he forever defined himself as a traitor.
One of them is currently POTUS!.
Universal Suffrage be the fly in the ointment.
I thought about that. Pairing Cruz with a conservative woman would be a very good idea. But IMHO that woman is not Palin. I just can't see an independent woman voting Cruz/Palin just because Palin is on the ticket. Her personality is just too powerful.
Independents who don't particularly like Palin won't be able to hold their nose and vote for her just because she's a woman. Just my two cents.
We let the Left inform our debates. They say Gov. Palin is an idiot, unpopular, divisive and shrill, so therefore we shrink away from her and search for a Kay Bailey Hutchison Ripon Republican to augment the ticket. It’s like they have a radio control to force us this way or that. Until we get beyond that we’ll keep picking Bushes, Romneys, McCains and Doles.
So popularity at Nutroots equals popularity with the general population.
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This is exactly what I see. As a conservative I strive not to speculate on another’s motivations. I am not a mind reader or an arm chair psychologist.
I knew the spring of 2008 that he was a liar and fraud because I researched his back ground. NO ONE in the media bothered to do so because all had been threatened and their families threatened.
The biggest lie is that he is black. He isn’t - he is Indonesian. Democrats knew that the black population would vote for him based on that lie. He was born in 1957 in Indonesia, was one of six Jakarta street kids that Lolo Soetoro adopted BEFORE he went to university in Hawaii and met Stanley Ann Dunham Obama. Her little boy, Barak Hussein Obama, was adopted by Lolo and had an adoption BC in Hawaii stating that he was Lolo’s son and his new name was Barry Soetoro.
Unfortunately little Barry fell out of a mango tree in the Soetoro garden in Jakarta and severely injured himself. It was so bad that he walked with a permanent limp, according to his older foster sister, Lia Soetoro Soba.
According to relatives of Madelyn Payne Dunham who visited Hawaii in the mid-1970s, that little boy had passed away and the “boy” living with them had lost his mother in 1972.
This “boy” was known at Punahou as Barry Soetoro, foreign student from Indonesia. He even had a BC that backed up the name and birth.
The person we know as POTUS is legally known as Barry Soetoro and was naturalized a U.S. citizen in the mid-1980s after working for the CIA in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Our tax dollars, via the CIA, paid for his education at Punahou, Occidental College, and Columbia University. The reason the records are off-limits is because they are under the name Barry Soetoro foreign student from Indonesia.
I think Warren's biggest electoral vulnerability is her own damning words, in which she publicly claims to have created the looney, juvenile, business destroying, socially disruptive, disease-laded, out of control, intellectually bankrupt, philosophically incoherent, America-hating, unsanitary, disgusting, left-wing extremist temper-tantrum movement Occupy Wall Street:
Conservatives need to endlessly tie her to Occupy Wall Street, recapping the horrific images of its appalling behavior:
VIDEO: Occupy Wall Street - Students occupied TD Bank 11.17.
VIDEO: Everyday Rebellion presents: Occupy Wall Street/Shut down Citibank, #S17
Minneapolis/St Paul Business Journal: Occupy Wall Street protesters close Wells Fargo HQ in S.F.
New York Times: For Some, Wall Street Is Main Street
But more than that, leftist propaganda has brainwashed many folks in the center. Those folks have a negative opinion of Cruz, Palin, etc. without even knowing why.
And it infuriates me the the GOP establishment does nothing to push back. Look at the presidential debates in 2008 and 2012. All the so-called moderators were lefties. One, Gwen Ifill, had even written a fawning book about Obama! Yet no protest from anyone in the GOP.
That is no doubt true...as far as it goes. But there is also a highly disturbing aspect to your argument: There are a helluva lot of Americans who ARE completely brainwashed.
You have hit on the most important political question of the past six years: why are Obama's records sealed?
Look, a person running for county commissioner couldn't get away with having his records sealed. Yet no one questions why Obama's records are sealed. No one asks why! Isn't anyone curious? It would have been a great question for McCain to bring up in 2008, or for Romney in 2012.
LOL! Just seeing something from Salon is all I need.
>>That is no doubt true...as far as it goes. But there is also a highly disturbing aspect to your argument: There are a helluva lot of Americans who ARE completely brainwashed.
I don’t think so. The great majority of American voters are not brainwashed, they’re just waiting to see what each side will give them. They voted for Obama because they saw a somewhat moderate black man that could be transformational. What they got (and after attending a conference with some of these folks last week - yes, older, single women working for the government) was a tremendous disappointment. I’ve never seen a group of women like this (and many of you know the type) look up at the TV in the restaurant we ate lunch in and say, “OMG, not Obama again, would you turn the channel for g** sakes? I can’t stand the look of him!”
I didn’t ask for further elaboration, but I do know that with a combination of Cruz and Rand (yeah, I know I’ll get a lot of flak for this) that the GOP has the chance to pull away SCADS of voters from the Democrats. Young, old, female, etc. and if illegal immigration is portrayed as an invasion of black American jobs, who knows.
The problem is that the current GOPe are sitting on their hands doing JACK.
Enforcing the laws of the land(tall order)would keep Hispanics as a growing but still negligible voter block for decades to come..."IF"...the GOP can project the right message/messenger to the voters AND actually do their jobs as legislators.
All that aside...the biggest threat for the GOP is(and will continue to be)...single/young white females...they are the fastest growing/largest demographic despite what the propaganda media tells us.
Hollywood/academia('rat "McCarthyism")has been and will continue to be the democrats 'rat factory.
Without an "affirmative action" type plan/demand for ideological balance there...'rats will rule for generations.
Liberal economic policies/consequences will mean nothing...because gov. can/will just borrow/print whatever it needs for whatever crisis it creates faces.
As it is with all liberal pundits, I honestly don’t know if he’s stupid or a liar. He’s so convincing in either role.
What tribe has the name of your ancestor on its books.
If you are native american your tribe is required to have your name and ancestry on their books. Step up and prove it... It is very simple to prove.... The woman is a liar.
Rockrr,
Yes! I had forgotten those remarks from Obama. I especially like the “back seat” comment.
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