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To: Elsie

You are obviously very religious so I doubt you see the overall picture, as most extremely religious people do not have an open mind to evaluate things from an independent viewpoint. Your own posts show where you lean, what you actually believe, and how you evaluate others.

I have no candidate to push because I am looking for someone who isn’t a religious nutcase. I like common sense. I am Christian, so I do see some things from that viewpoint. However, I believe there is way too much “KOOLAID” involved in how people vote.

One point for me in the Presidency is that this person is going to be the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces...I believe it should be a requirement that they have served in the Military, at least as a Reservist. That’s a personal opinion....not a religious one....and O Drama certainly has proven my point.


262 posted on 06/20/2014 5:39:16 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat
You are obviously very religious so I doubt you see the overall picture, as most extremely religious people do not have an open mind to evaluate things from an independent viewpoint.

HMMMmmm/...

Who knew??

272 posted on 06/20/2014 6:08:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kackikat
I am Christian, so I do see some things from that viewpoint.

A lot of folks say that; and then do not stand up for the cause very much.

A lot of folks say that; and then DO stand up for the cause very much.


As for ME; I'll go along with what the book says:

 
Romans 16:17
   I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
 
 
1 Corinthians 4:17
   For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.
 
 
1 Corinthians 11:2
 2.  I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.
 
 
Ephesians 4:14-15
 14.  Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
 15.  Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.
 
 
2 Thessalonians 2:15
   So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings  we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
 
 
2 Thessalonians 3:6
  In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching  you received from us.
 
 
1 Timothy 1:3-4
 3.  As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
 4.  nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.
 
 
1 Timothy 1:7
  They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.
 
 
1 Timothy 2:7
   And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.
 
 
1 Timothy 4:1-2
 1.  The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
 2.  Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
 
 
1 Timothy 4:6
   If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.
 
 
1 Timothy 4:11
  Command and teach these things.
 
 
1 Timothy 6:3-5
 3.  If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
 4.  he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 
 5.  and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
 
 
2 Timothy 1:13
  What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.
 
 
 2 Timothy 2:15-17
 15.  Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
 16.  Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.
 17.  Their teaching will spread like gangrene.
 
 
2 Timothy 3:16-17
 16.  All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 17.  so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
 
 
 2 Timothy 4:3-4
  3.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
  4.  They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
 
 
Titus 1:11
   They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.
 
 
Titus 2:1
  You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.
 
 
Titus 2:15
  These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.
 
 
 Hebrews 13:9
 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.
 
 
 2 Peter 2:1-3
 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 
 
2 John 1:10
  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.



274 posted on 06/20/2014 6:12:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kackikat

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275 posted on 06/20/2014 6:12:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kackikat

“...be the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces...I believe it should be a requirement that they have served in the Military, at least as a Reservist....”

You’re not alone there, friend. I believe that too.


293 posted on 06/20/2014 7:16:47 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Kackikat
"You are obviously very religious so I doubt you see the overall picture, as most extremely religious people do not have an open mind to evaluate things from an independent viewpoint. Your own posts show where you lean, what you actually believe, and how you evaluate others.

I have no candidate to push because I am looking for someone who isn’t a religious nutcase. I like common sense. I am Christian, so I do see some things from that viewpoint."

From your post, I take a few interesting things.

You're a Christian, but you look askance at "very religious" folks. They have a closed mind and, in fact, might qualify as "nutcases." You, on the other hand, have common sense and you see SOME things from a religious viewpoint.

Therefore, you're one of those "Christians" who are only slightly religious, and who think POVs based on non-Christian theory are equally valid. The things you do happen to see from a Christian POV are those which don't conflict with your OWN personal priority of being seen as tolerant and "open-minded." Don't want to be mistaken for one of those toothless, Bible-thumping snake handlers, right?

Yeah. I've seen the type before.

314 posted on 06/20/2014 8:47:20 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Kackikat; Elsie
One point for me in the Presidency is that this person is going to be the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces...I believe it should be a requirement that they have served in the Military, at least as a Reservist

There is some credence to that thought, but keep in mind that while it worked out well with Truman, Eisenhower; Nixon, Ford, Reagan and both Bushes, not so much for JFK, LBJ, and Jimmah Cawttare.

374 posted on 06/20/2014 12:04:48 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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