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Bring on the brokered convention – it could be just what the Republicans need
The London Telegraph ^ | February 5, 2012 | Dr. Tim Stanley

Posted on 02/05/2012 11:39:10 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Mitt Romney won last night’s Nevada caucus. It’s no shocker: he took the state by 51 percent in 2008 and it’s packed full of Mormons. But the media is predicting a sunny spring for Mr Romney, with likely victories across February. By Super Tuesday in March, he could have enough momentum to knock out Gingrich and claim the nomination.

Newt was not happy with the result. During his concession speech, he lashed out at his opponent's "shameless untruths" and the media's willingness to promote them. He left the podium with a smile. Gingrich lost the Nevada caucus but won his press conference.

The Grinch has reason to be cheerful. The Washington Post points out that delegates are being distributed in proportion to the votes that each candidate gets. That means that, despite his many victories, Romney could still arrive at the convention without the “50 percent plus one” necessary to secure the nomination on the first ballot.

Newt Gingrich made it plain that he sees this fight going all the way to the convention. He told the press that he's happy to win a few headline states and collect enough delegates elsewhere to break even with Mitt in the final count. So long as Romney misses his "50 percent plus one", Gingrich can then force a convention "brokered" by GOP bosses – a fight that he probably presumes he would win. It's an exciting thought.

It used to be the rule that people went to the conventions without a prior idea of who the winner was going to be; primary wins were leverage, not a guarantee of victory. In 1948, Republican contender Thomas Dewey took just two primaries and 11.5 percent of the overall vote. Yet he won the nomination at his party’s convention on the third ballot....

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: brokeredconvention; gingrich; newt; romney; thegrinch
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Is this for real or are we being played again?
1 posted on 02/05/2012 11:39:16 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some damn fine men have emerged from brokered conventions. Garfield, Harding, Coolidge...an argument could be made that Jefferson could be included in that list.


2 posted on 02/05/2012 11:43:06 AM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IMO, we’re *always* being played. Like a friggin drum.


3 posted on 02/05/2012 11:43:52 AM PST by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The establishment GOP controls the convention. Anyone who thinks a brokered convention will result in anyone except Romney is fooling themselves.

We either win this at the ballot box or conservatism and the Tea Party have been silenced in 2012.


4 posted on 02/05/2012 11:44:37 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Gingrich=Tea Party, Romney=Gerald Ford)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WE are probably being “played!”


5 posted on 02/05/2012 11:45:13 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: wolfcreek

I agree. Mitt has the candidates working for him minus Perry and Newt!


6 posted on 02/05/2012 11:49:38 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, we’re being played again...because we’re ALWAYS being played by the GOP-e crowd.

However, if we all got on the same page, we could make it for real.


7 posted on 02/05/2012 11:52:21 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If we end up with a brokered convention, with neither Newt, Mitt-Witt, Ricky-Ticky-Tavi or RuPaul able to secure the nomination, we might as well go for broke and draft Sarah Palin for President, and former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Marine General Peter Pace for Vice President.

Sarah will totally dismantle 0bama in any debate they have, General Pace will reduce Joe Biden to a babbling glob of Jello (which won’t be hard to do).

My thoughts, FWIW.


8 posted on 02/05/2012 11:52:38 AM PST by mkjessup (Let's do to Mitt what his Irish Setter did to him while tied to the roof rack of his station wagon!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It just gets interestinger and interestinger.


9 posted on 02/05/2012 11:53:50 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: Erik Latranyi

If both the Newtster and the Mittens delegates don’t fold then both are forced to agree upon a third option, often a person who doesn’t even want the position but also someone who has earned the respect of all.


10 posted on 02/05/2012 11:54:59 AM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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Or would they?
If the guy couldn't put Gingrich away after all that much time & money spent, would they dare hand to Mitt anyway? Seems foolish.
11 posted on 02/05/2012 11:55:21 AM PST by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"…he could have enough momentum…"
Sssssh! Nobody tell the Mittiots nor the media it's delegates, not momentum, they need.
See you Freepers in Florida when we do "The Tampa '12 Step"!
12 posted on 02/05/2012 12:01:24 PM PST by bksanders (Old Gets Older the Older I Get)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bring it.

Maybe someone can explain something: Both SC and FL had delegates taken away (half) because they moved their primary dates against RNC policy. So what does this mean? Does it change the number of delegates needed or just the number of people that can attend the convention and vote for those states?

This whole primary thing is really seriously screwed up!


13 posted on 02/05/2012 12:02:30 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Yashcheritsiy

If we send Newt to that convention with 51% they won’t have much choice.

Newt should not give up . Go all the way, maybe some time santorum will wake the hell up and drop out.

Of course Ron paul will never drop out.


14 posted on 02/05/2012 12:05:07 PM PST by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, 2DV (happy belated birthday, BTW), we are always being played by these thugs. But...a brokered convention would, at the very least, provide a forum for a discussion about the future of the GOP.
If they can’t renounce their left leaning, centrist BS, and nominate a true CONSERVATIVE candidate, then they will have made the decision much easier for all of us.
The possibility of a strong third party push is a bit unsettling, but the CONSERVATIVE position MUST be given voice.


15 posted on 02/05/2012 12:08:01 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With the GOP establishment firmly in control, the only way a brokered convention wouldn’t result in Romney being chosen is if they could find a way to resurrect Karl Marx.


16 posted on 02/05/2012 12:10:43 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve heard it said that Politics is about making you think you have some control. You don’t. The media, Party leaders and the Powers that Be control the agenda. Average voters are sheep to be manipulated. That’s why we need multiple parties, and encourage open political primaries, and eliminate the current ability for the few to control the duopoly.

In Soviet Union they had one Party and had a dictatorship. Two Parties doesn’t necessarily give freedom to the people.


17 posted on 02/05/2012 12:19:20 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I agree. I suspect alot of folks think that the brokered convention may cause Mitt to choose some red meat rightwinger as VP to appease the conservative base, but I’m not too sure, and I’m not sure it would even matter anyway.


18 posted on 02/05/2012 12:21:34 PM PST by MachIV
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To: apoliticalone

***In Soviet Union they had one Party***

Does anyone truly believe we still have a Two-Party system?


19 posted on 02/05/2012 12:27:43 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to celebrate life and embrace the future.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Perhaps my state’s election (Pennsylvania) will be meaningful for a change! It’s usually too late to make a difference.


20 posted on 02/05/2012 12:33:44 PM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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