Posted on 11/28/2011 11:15:55 PM PST by Windflier
I don't get it. Why do so many wackos and outright lunatics support Ron Paul? Just what is it about him that attracts such crazies?
Exhibit A. The following exchange occurred on Facebook tonight:
Louis Farrakhan endorses Ron Paul
Ronnie: Ooops...
Amy: lol!
Ozzie: Its funny because it says endorses Ron Paul. But yet what he does is praise Ron Paul's will and determination to fight the illegal Federal Reserve. If you dont agree with that, then your a hopeless case.
Ronnie: You don't get it, Ozzie. No Republican politician who wants to stay in good standing with the conservative community wants Farrakhan saying nice things about him. Farrakhan is evil incarnate to the right.
Ozzie: And why is he evil? Because he speaks out also? Tells the truth about alot of subjects most wont even approach?
Ozzie: Why is the truth so hard to grasp for so called "Conservatives"?
Ozzie: If your a true conservative there is only one person to support.. Ron Paul the only true conservative to run for president. Most claim they are conservative, but just watching Fox News does not make you right, in fact it will make you look ignorant
Ronnie: Farrakhan is an abject racist, and a moronic conspiracy loon. You want to hitch your wagon to his, you go right ahead.
Amy: Farrakhan is a racist son of a bitch who hates Jews. Why is it that so many Anti-Semitic f-ers are Paulbots?
Ronnie: Thanks, Amy. I forgot about his anti-Semitism.
Amy: And don't forget about the UFOs
Ronnie: That's the moronic conspiracy crap I was referring to. Farrakhan's a nut.
Ozzie: Same old statements same old false bs
Amy: It's not bs. Are you a Farrahkanbot, too?
Ozzie: Paulbots hate jews and are anti-semitic. Couldnt be farther from the truth
Ronnie: Don't you wish they were false. Unfortunately, Farrakhan is on record making hundreds, if not thousands of racist comments. Don't forget his little talk about the Mothership .. LOL
Ronnie: Ozzie, you sound like a lib. Are you a lib?
Ozzie: I support Paul not Farrakhan. But I have heard alot of truth out of Farrakhan including this vid.
Ozzie: Everyone is a liberal if they dont agree with you guys.
Ronnie: So, you ARE a liberal. Thanks.
Ozzie: Keep watching Fox News and believing that our goal as a country is to support and protect Israel. Nothing else matters in the entire world but Israel.
Amy: Ozzie, Hitler said lots of truths. He probably said "2+2=4" at one time. That doesn't make him any less a piece of sh**, like Farrakhan. And as Ronnie said, Farrakhan isn't shy about speaking his sh** to the media. I would guess there are thousands of racist remarks that can be cited by that piece of sh**.
Ozzie: Ron Paul is far from a liberal.
Amy: Ozzie, why do you hate Israel so much?
Amy: Ozzie, why do you hate Jews so much?
Ronnie: Ah.....so you're an anti-Semite to boot. Nice.
Ozzie: I never said I hate Israel or that I hate jews, but thats how your arguments go you put words in peoples mouths.
Ozzie: Maybe you should learn the true history of Israel.
Ronnie: Hey Ozzie. What sort of flag is that in your avatar? Looks like an alteration of Old Glory to me.
Amy: You said I watch Fox News. I don't, and I never have.
Ozzie: Or just sit back and watch your zionist controlled media in which you love.
Amy: Oh, the "true" history of Israel. Care to tell me about the "true" history of Israel?
Ozzie: Its a flag in which you will know nothing about because your a war mongerer.
Ronnie: Only libs rail like that against Fox News. Real conservatives don't think much of that news channel. In fact, most conservatives can't stand it. You're outing yourself, Ozzie.
Ozzie: Sorry Amy your far from savable. Your lost and educated like the mass sheeple.
Ronnie: Hey Amy......we got us a 'true believer' here.
Amy: "Zionist Controlled Media." I was right... you're a racist mf-er. Do you believe the Jews caused 9/11 too?
Amy: Oh Ozzie, I'm brighter than you will ever be.
Ozzie: Media isnt controlled by Zionists? Prove that one.
Ronnie: Tell me more about your flag, traitor.
Ozzie: name calling is so good.
Amy: Ok Ozzie.....Not one of the major television news operations—Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, ABC News, CBS News, or NBC News—is currently headed by a Jewish executive.
Ozzie: Traitor?
Ronnie: Not name calling. I'm identifying and classifying you. Keep talking. I'm working on your dossier.
Ozzie: And that proves what Amy?
Ronnie: That you're a moron, Ozzie.
Amy: That the Jews don't control the media. Duh.
Ozzie: Do you think having unwavering support for Israel makes you American?
Ronnie: Don'tcha just love having these sorts of civil discussions with Paul supporters, Amy? They're always so......enlightening.
Ozzie: Because an executive isnt jewish means the media isnt controlled by zionists?
Ozzie: You guys are the morons
Amy: BTW a-hole, if you are a conservative, then you should encourage successful people to rise to the top. The Jews have been disproportionately successful for centuries. One of the reasons why is that Gentiles did not allow them to own land, so they had to be professionals.
Ronnie: Ozzie, you're what Lenin and Stalin called a "useful idiot". I'll bet you voted for Obama and attended at least one Occupy protest. You're a brainwashed lib, and it shows.
Amy: So racists, like you and Hitler, call them lazy, but they were only lazy because they could not own land and become farmers. They had to work in the cities. And because of strong family values, they did well in school, and succeeded. Without going to wikipedia, Jews were about 1% of the population in Germany, yet received 35% of the Nobel prizes awarded to Germans prior to Hitler. Why do you hate Jews for being successful?
Ozzie: Ronnie your not even close which just proves how clueless you idiots are. Go to the voting booth next year and act like yo have a choice. Act like your free.
Ronnie: You voted for Obama, didn't you Ozzie. Admit it.
Amy: Jews have been -----ed for thousands of years. They finally have their own homeland. It's a ----ing desert that they turned into a mecca. If the Palestinian leader sh** weren't a bunch of insane radical muzzies, there would be peace in the Middle East. But they leaders suck. Arafat was the biggest peace of sh** ever. He stole from his people.
Ozzie: I would never vote for a Democrat. Never have, I have just awoke to the truths in this world and I am not living in the la la land you still seem to occupy.
Amy: I think I recall that the Muzzies attacked Israel on the very first day of their assistance... RIGHT????
Amy: Come on Ozzie... tell me the "truth" about Israel. I'm waiting....
Ronnie: I pity you Ozzie. You only think you're free. You're a liberal sheeple, whose head has been stuffed with all kinds of lies about your country. You've drunk the Kool-Aid, and think you've got the answers, when all you've got is some first class indoctrination.
Ozzie: I must have touched a soft spot with you and the jews Amy. Its always so easy to see, anyone who doesnt support Ron Paul and considers themself conservative always reverts to Israel and jews.
Ronnie: Oh really? Who threw out the "Zionist" card?
Ronnie: I don't believe a word you say, Ozzie. You're a liberal, pretending to be 'something' else. What that is, I don't really know. Sorta typical of you Paul supporters.
Amy: No, dumb----, you said Farrakhan was ok.... REMEMBER????
Ozzie: Its just plain easy to see.. The media is controlled and its so simple to see
Amy: I have lots of Paulbot friends. And it's not Ron Paul that I hate... it's you racist f-ers.
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And so it went, for perhaps another thirty posts or so.
I've got a few dear old friends that are Paul supporters. They sometimes write me the most heartfelt emails, encouraging me to get behind Ron Paul.
Some of them are guys I've respected for decades, and it just kills me having to burst their bubble with those facts. I try to get them to confront the fact that Ron Paul has run for president before, and that he never got more than a few percentage points of the vote.
I ask them to explain to me why they think he's got any better chance of winning this time. They usually point to straw polls and internet polls for proof, and then I show them the results of the national polls. At that point, they usually revert to conspiracy theories to explain why he's stuck at 7%.
I usually let it go at that, and allow them have their fantasy.
Depends on the bank. I don’t do business with Darhel, Klingons, Democrats or other such riff-raff...
I think it’s a template. I get locked in a debate with my brother who just sort of laughs when I throw him facts and snap him in to reality. Meanwhile, he counters with conspiracy theories involving the Jews (both here and abroad) and the state of Israel.
His views on FP and “the war on drugs” are understandably controversial. That aside, his remaining domestic positions are often spot on.
I haven't watched any of the debates on television, but I have listened to them on radio. I kind of prefer doing it that way, so that I'm not distracted by camera work, lighting, strange looks, split screens, etc.
I feel like straight audio is more honest, and that it's harder to fool the ear.
Anyway, the way Ron Paul sounded in the last debate was positively geriatric. He also sounded high strung and emotionally tweaked. Compared to the other candidates, he came off sounding like an old kook off the street, and that's not any sort of prejudice on my part talking. He really didn't sound like a presidential candidate.
Windflier wrote:
“Just what is it about Ron Paul that attracts these nuts?”
Paul has two support bases, both very small:
The mainly younger group likes his combination of pacifist foreign policy and willingness to legalize drugs. They ignore his fiscal policies, assuming they’ll worry about those later.
The other group tends to be older and garden-variety libertarian. They like the fiscal policies and the posturing.
Together they don’t make up enough of the electorate to matter. But somebody had to take over for Harold Stassen.
I'm sure you've heard Freepers give Ron Paul his due, over and over again. Few of us deny that he's got the right ideas about a lot of things, but his supporters just won't accept that he's broken the deal with us in other areas.
Some deal breakers are minor, some are modest, and some are major. Ron Paul's got some major deal breakers with most conservatives. Add to that, the fact that he doesn't have the leadership credentials to be a president, and the fact that he's a House member (which puts him at very long odds of being elected), and his advanced age, and it's pretty self explanatory.
He's a No Sale for most thinking conservatives.
Well, it’s drawn on the 1st Bank of Free Republic. Hope they’ll do ;-)
I’ve got a brother like that, but he’s even worse. He’s a progressive Dem. You oughta hear the ridiculous conspiracy theories that come out of his mouth.
I point out all the things the Obama mal-administration is doing, and the lightbulb never goes on. I’ve given up on trying to close the circuit.
Embracing the Alex Jones/paranoid nutcase market sure doesn't keep the crazies away.
I don’t call him Ron Pol Pot for nothing.
Yep. I was just telling someone that most Freepers give the man his due, but that he simply breaks the deal with us in ways that are non-negotiable.
Oh yeah, I’ve met a few Obama Drones these past few years.
Yeah, and some of them have buyer's remorse and are now crossing over. First stop - Ron Paul.
Which could prove dangerous if enough of them crossover and vote as Republicans like last time. Careful what you wish for.
I think maybe you all are right, and my statement was unfair. What I meant was something like: the latest medical expertise (on sodium etc.) always seems to want you to get you to change your ways in a quite radical manner. Doctors often seem to go with the latest trends, oblivious to the fact that these trends have only just been reversed or re-reversed. My own grandfather was advised to “stay in bed” following his heart attack, which killed him. Therefore, like Galen, and as a son of doctors, I am wary of doctors who claim to be know-it-all “experts” and am thankful for those who seem to understand the complexity of life and the perhaps unquantifiable value of individual liberty.
[ Few of us deny that he’s got the right ideas about a lot of things, but his supporters just won’t accept that he’s broken the deal with us in other areas. ]
I havn’t seen that.. Mostly he is condemned as crazy or addled..
I think he is so smart he does not want to be President..
Just to adjust the dialog on the debates.. as he does..
A few over the top comments does it...
There are many places the US should NOT be like Korea or Germany.. or Japan except nominally..
Pulling back from everywhere is just silly..
Paul used to be tough, but he has turned into a silly little girl.. pity.. age maybe..
The truth is Congress wouldn’t let him go off half-cocked anyway..
Only Michele Bachmann would do (some of) the intelligent things he proposes (intelligently)..
Many Freepers themselves act like silly little girls..
And some of them ARE girls..
I waiting for the meanest leanest son of a bastich I can find to be behind..
A compassionate conservative is little more than a democrat.. a silly one..
Finding a democrat thats not silly would be a hard job..
I like the old mean nasty Ron Paul.. the Icehole.. I like that one..
The only one that comes close is Michele Bachmann..
Yeah. LOL.
Except that George Washington, John Adams, Hamilton, and even 0Franklin would also be perceived as “crazy old loons...”
The guy really is a constitutionalist.
Remember that document?
uh....because a NUT KNOWS other NUTS.
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