David Hume: Will November be a Pyrrhic victory? (Passing ObamaCare was their real goal)

Secular Right ^ | September 24, 2010 | David Hume

[2ndDivisionVet]

If he's right we're sunk. Read the comments, as well.

[pnh102]

Sadly I do not see the GOP repealing or defunding 0bamacare. They might stop 0bama from doing anything else but given their previous unwillingness to reduce the size and scope of government, I just don't see them doing this.

Besides, any move to repeal this atrocity would be met with ads like "See? The evil GOP is trying to kill you!" and they will predictably fall like a house of cards.

[cotton1706]

Of course it was they’re real goal. That’s why they did whatever it took, arm-twisting, payoffs, deem and pass, reconciliation. Anything to get the mechanisms enacted into law.

The answer is to completely defund it. Starve it. Then repeal it. Then burn it.

[GeronL]

I think that might be correct.

[ClearCase_guy]

Things change after November 2010.

Either the government backs off and does things right, or the citizens initiate war.

[NonValueAdded]

Depends on the timing ... Obamacare has a long way to go before it is implemented. Remember, it is the costs, not the benefits, that are front-loaded. That’s the window through which repeal can climb.

[PMAS]

He is assuming that none of zer0’s policies will be rolled back or repealed - or at least parts of them.
What he doesn’t realize that November isn’t just about a short term victory, but the first step in restoring this nation - unless, of course, that feeling dies off.

[Signalman]

We (The Tea Party, Conservatives etc.) need to get a GOP dominated Congress and a conservative in the White House in 2012, and demand that they abolish Obamacare. And we need to impress upon them that if they don’t do this, then we’ll boot THEIR asses out of Washington and get someone who will.

[shibumi]

David Hume?

Really?

[Cincinatus]

David Hume .... could out-consume,
Schopenhauer and Hagel.

And Wittgenstein was beery swine who just as sloshed as Schlegel.

[353FMG]

“...I just don’t see them doing this.”

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Are we exchanging one group of RINOs with another?

[knarf]

And it should not stop the Republicans from saying and acting against the bill that contains probably more legislation NOT connected to health or care.

I have not read the bill, but I have heard enough talk radio to deduce the bill was the end run around the Constitution, Congress, the legislative process and America.

The zerocare bill must die .. quickly and completely.

There are no parts worth salvageing.

[Perdogg]

A poet once said

“Always hopeful, yet discontent, He knows changes aren’t permanent, But change is”,

Nothing is permanent - Reidcare isn’t (it should not even be called 0bamaCare because he had little to do in writing it).

[AnotherUnixGeek]

(Passing ObamaCare was their real goal)

Yes, and dismantling and defunding ObamaCare must be THE main priority of the GOP if it wins the House and or the Senate. If establishment Republicans squander this opportunity that's being given to them by the hard work of the Tea Party, the GOP deserves to go the way of the Whigs. The GOP is rapidly running out of chances to stand for and accomplish something worthwhile - it's increasingly just a party of unprincipled, power-hungry mediocrities. Specter, Murkowski, Castle, the list goes on and on.

[AnotherUnixGeek]

Besides, any move to repeal this atrocity would be met with ads like "See? The evil GOP is trying to kill you!" and they will predictably fall like a house of cards.

65% of the country is unhappy with ObamaCare. If the GOP is too mealy-mouthed, incompetent and stupid to undo ObamaCare with numbers like that to support it, then the GOP is too useless to exist anymore and should be replaced by a political party committed to free-enterprise and small government.

[DaxtonBrown]

[If he’s right we’re sunk]

Oh, he’s right and we are sunk. And you better hope we are going down like the Titanic, because that’s the only way to fix the problem.

We cannot physically pay for Obamacare. Period. And Republicans have no hope of turning that supertanker around in time before it hits the rocks. But neither can Obamacare be salvaged when it does hit the rocks. It is only out of the ensuing carnage that we have a chance of cutting out the deadwood. Will take 20 years.

[HerrBlucher]

If anyone thinks that if we get a pub majority in the house and senate our work is done, think again. Without intense pressure the pubs will slack, reach across the isle, comprimise, and allow obamacare to stick. WE CANNOT ALLOW THAT! The Tea Party must continue its pressure unabated, maybe even more pressure than ever.

Even with the wind at their back i.e. public dissapproval of Obamacare, pubs will be hesitant to really go after defunding and especially repeal, its not in their nature to be that aggressive, but they will if we keep our boots to their neck. They will take the path of least resistance and we need to make sure that path is repealing obamacare and burning it to a crisp.

[central_va]

Either the government backs off and does things right, or the citizens initiate war.

So secession it is going to be then. Will a war follow?

[Slyfox]

If Obama and the lamestreammedia have problems with the TEA Party right now, just wait until ObamaCare is fully enacted.

[shortstop]

I will wait for the U.S. Supreme Court to have a shot at rolling the Obamacare monster back. Right now, that may be our best hope, rather than waiting for the Republicans to legislate it back.