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1 posted on 11/20/2008 1:05:45 PM PST by Juris
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To: Juris

Liberal, progressive, reformer. They all mean the same thing.


2 posted on 11/20/2008 1:08:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Juris

Understand this. There is no longer a republican party. It is dead and gone. It committed suicide when it decided to stand for nothing larger than power and getting re-elected.

Stop thinking in terms of republicans and democrats. The democrats are about to commit suicide just as the republicans did, and in much the same manner. The entire concept of the republican and democrat parties is no longer valid or worthy of debate. The republican party is gone and the democrat party soon will be too.

The only question that remains is can America survive for long enough to reach the same conclusion and shake off the repubs vs demos mentality and return to a system of limited self-government, or will it morph into a soviet style socialist paradise with “them” at the top and everyone else at the bottom.

Looking at the history of man, I will sadly place my bet on the latter. The whole idea of a democratic republic in America was an experiment. The experiment has run it’s course and we already have an answer. The American people, out of all the potential presidents in the just finished election, chose two leftists, neither of whom represents the ideals of liberty.

I think that concludes the experiment and answers the question, can any people long remain free. The answer is NO, because the work involved in being free and self-sufficient is too troubling for the vast majority. Those of us who would be free are just chips on a millrace now, swept along in the foaming rushing waters of the vast majority who are determined to wear the chains of servitude.


3 posted on 11/20/2008 1:09:21 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Juris

Chapter 11 for the GOP


4 posted on 11/20/2008 1:24:12 PM PST by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Juris

its hard to tell. Marriage is still alive, and Prop 8 passed in the most Democrat state west of Illinois. People still believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I think we need to go back to Reagan’s foreign policy, peace thru strength, not thru neo-conism.


5 posted on 11/20/2008 1:40:28 PM PST by jmikes20
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To: Juris; 88keys; Akron Al; babyface00; Badray; Bikers4Bush; boxerblues; Captiva; Commiewatcher; ...
The Republicans in elective office fell prey to not being able to resist lining their pockets with loot, (gov't contract for everyone!), ((they turned Ohio into a fiefdom which is now lost)), and they could not keep their zippers up. (Shame for a Republican, a Badge of Honor for a Democrat).

We lack leadership and drive. Newt was a great leader until he developed feet of clay. Can he be redeemed much as Richard Nixon was?

JC Watts and John Kasich got out of the rat race because they looked around and saw that the rats were winning.

If you look at individual states or the national scene, is there anyone out there who will pick up the banners of lower taxes, lower government spending/smaller government, strong defense, LESS interference with your personal and business lives? I don't see them.

Moses and the nation of Israel wandered the desert for 40 years before God decided that they had been punished enough. Will my grandchildren see the return of principled Republicans to power, and the start of the reverse of Obamanation? Will it be too late then?

In God We Trust.....Semper Fi

6 posted on 11/20/2008 1:44:15 PM PST by North Coast Conservative (Are you a sheep? Or, are you a sheep dog?)
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One of these days Brooks will realize that he is a lightweight and affirmative action case, whose position is designed to look foolish and discredit real conservatives. He is the equivalent of the East German Christian Democrat Party, except that he has internalized his role without any threat of actual violence.

As for his actual piece, I wonder if he has any concept what a traditionalist is. Half the time he sounds more like a third-generation communist ranting at counter-revolutionaries with no concept of the ancienne regime.


10 posted on 11/20/2008 7:37:29 PM PST by rmlew (The loyal opposition to a regime dedicated to overthrowing the Constitution are accomplices.)
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To: Juris

No it’s not reformer’s vs. traditonalists, it’s the RINOmoderates vs. Traditional Conservatives.


11 posted on 11/20/2008 9:34:56 PM PST by JSDude1 (PAUL BROUN for House Republican Minority Leader..Mike Pence for conference chair!)
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To: Juris
I have one answer to those who claim they can resurrect the GOP:


12 posted on 11/20/2008 9:37:17 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Why lawyer up when you can pony up?" - IYAS9YAS)
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To: Juris

It is NOT between “reformers” and “traditionalists”.

It is between CONSERVATIVES and limp wristed RINOS


13 posted on 11/20/2008 9:45:24 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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