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To: Juris; 88keys; Akron Al; babyface00; Badray; Bikers4Bush; boxerblues; Captiva; Commiewatcher; ...
The Republicans in elective office fell prey to not being able to resist lining their pockets with loot, (gov't contract for everyone!), ((they turned Ohio into a fiefdom which is now lost)), and they could not keep their zippers up. (Shame for a Republican, a Badge of Honor for a Democrat).

We lack leadership and drive. Newt was a great leader until he developed feet of clay. Can he be redeemed much as Richard Nixon was?

JC Watts and John Kasich got out of the rat race because they looked around and saw that the rats were winning.

If you look at individual states or the national scene, is there anyone out there who will pick up the banners of lower taxes, lower government spending/smaller government, strong defense, LESS interference with your personal and business lives? I don't see them.

Moses and the nation of Israel wandered the desert for 40 years before God decided that they had been punished enough. Will my grandchildren see the return of principled Republicans to power, and the start of the reverse of Obamanation? Will it be too late then?

In God We Trust.....Semper Fi

6 posted on 11/20/2008 1:44:15 PM PST by North Coast Conservative (Are you a sheep? Or, are you a sheep dog?)
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To: North Coast Conservative
It's getting very very scary....

My entire family considered me a hopelessly untreatable pessimist.....
My predictions on the Housing Market collapse, followed by the foreclosures due to insane loaning practices, followed by accelerating unemployment and business bankruptcy, closures and massive layoff - all leading to a market collapse.....

Well it's all come true in less than 2 years..
The gloom became apparent starting with the Democrats regaining control of congress and the media whoring itself out to the Leftists.

Finally — Certainty arrived with the election of Obama..
That proved the Republic reached a point where the electorate was too damned stupid to survive in a competitive and violent world...

8 posted on 11/20/2008 2:39:12 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: North Coast Conservative

Conservatism 101

1. Is IT a conservative principle to put moratoriums on immigration and foreign worker levels during a recession or depression?

a. What is wrong with a “Hire a US Citizen First” policy? Taking care of your own people first should be a conservative principle don’t you think?

b. How can we justify as a NATION any legal immigration or foreign workers when Black unemployment is nearly double the white rate and Hispanic unemployment levels are 8.9% to 5.4% for whites:

i. http://blackpoliticsontheweb.com/2008/11/08/black-unemployment-nearly-double-white-rate/
ii. http://www.bepress.com/jbvela/vol3/iss1/art11/

c. Shouldn’t Black and Hispanic unemployment levels be less than or equal to white unemployment levels before the United States of America allows any new immigrant OR foreign worker IN?

2. United States Citizenship is Nonpartisan!

3. Is IT a conservative principle to demand that States within our Republic perform their US Constitutional duty and validate US Citizenship when people register to vote and vote?

a. Article IV – The States:
Section 4 - Republican government. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

b. Republic:

i. A government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and is usually a president; also: a nation or other political unit having such a government.
ii. A government in which supreme power is held by the citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives governing according to law.

How can we as Conservatives come together and stop the advancement of Liberalism and Socialism if we can not agree on these three BASIC points before we CAN move on to the other issues that befalls our beloved Republic.

I got my Senate voting data at http://www.SenateReports.com.


9 posted on 11/20/2008 2:43:11 PM PST by DugFmJamul
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To: North Coast Conservative
The Republicans in elective office fell prey to not being able to resist lining their pockets with loot..

While conservatism and honesty are essential for the GOP to succeed, the 2008 national election was lost from the top down.... starting with the shaky, oldster, sickly looking McCain who astonishly was nominated as the FACE of the Republican Party.

For heaven's sake, McCain was proud that HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO EMAIL!!!

That little tidbit goes right to the fact that many voters, including me, a very conservative Republican committeeman, couldn't stand the thought of having a 72-year-old unable-to-speak-with inspiration frump representing America.

I was embarrassed at having to defend his pandering, no-drill, no-borders, campaign finance baloney.

I love McCain and his story... his heroism and integrity as a POW.

I get red-faced mad whenever the Dems slam him.

But the fact remains that the GOP in 2008 (just like with Dole) was seen as the party stuck in the 1950s era of Korea/Vietnam --- and the Democrats were seen as able to lead and understand the 21st century.

Talk show hosts focus entirely too much on conservative vs liberal candidates when the most essential component of winning is having a LIKABLE candidate, younger and virile, enthusiastic and inspiring, and who has the STATURE of a US President.

McCain, and thus the GOP, had none of those.

14 posted on 11/21/2008 8:59:48 AM PST by Edit35 (.)
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