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Hotels Across the U.S. Going Smoke-Free
earthlink news ^ | 9-18-03

Posted on 09/18/2003 12:45:25 PM PDT by hoosierskypilot

BASKING RIDGE, N.J. - From New York to California, small and mid-size hotels have gone smoke-free, cleaning, deodorizing and redecorating rooms once reserved for smokers and designating them nonsmoking.

One major reason is that fewer guests are requesting smoking rooms. But hotel managers point to other benefits: lower room maintenance costs and a marketing tool at a time when the business has been hurt by a sluggish economy.

"In all of our publications, we promote a smoke-free environment, and we've gotten calls because of it. Families with kids, it's attractive to them. It reinforces cleanliness and safety," said Chris Canavos, manager of the 98-room Howard Johnson's in Williamsburg, Va., which went smoke-free during a renovation three years ago.

In New York City, which banned smoking in restaurants and bars over the summer, the 79-room Comfort Inn Midtown in the theater district just marked its second smoke-free year. For the first seven months of this year, the Comfort Inn's occupancy rate has been a strong 96 percent.

Nonsmoker Leon Der Bogosian, a jewelry wholesaler from Los Angeles who frequently travels on business, stays at the Comfort Inn Midtown an average of eight times a year. Of the smoke-free policy, he said: "I'm bound to them because of that."

"Clean air, that's the main thing for me," he said. When he recently stayed in Detroit, his nonsmoking room was on a floor with smoking rooms, and "from the elevator to the room, you could smell cigarettes."

Vijay Dandapani, chief operating officer of Apple Core Hotels, which runs the Comfort Inn Midtown, said that on average, maids have to spend an extra five minutes cleaning a smoking room, including emptying the ashtrays and scrubbing the smoke residue that settles on everything.

Moreover, hotel managers point out, the drapes, the carpets, the bedding and other furnishings need to be replaced more frequently in smoking rooms, because smokers burn holes in the furniture and cause other damage.

The switchover to no smoking also gives hotels more flexibility: Normally, when hotels are close to full, nonsmoking guests are offered smoking rooms. To many nonsmokers, that stinks. They are repelled by the hard-to-remove cigarette smell.

Many bars, restaurants and workplaces across the country have gone smoke-free over the past several years. John Banzhaf, an anti-smoking activist and professor of public interest law at George Washington University, calls hotels one of the last holdouts.

"I definitely think it will be a continuing and accelerating trend," he said. "I think hotels will try to distinguish themselves and try to provide some added value for their guests, and they'll be successful at it."

According to a PricewaterhouseCoopers study of major U.S. urban markets, rooms for smokers account for 16 percent of all hotel rooms, a drop of 4 percentage points over the past five years.

In addition to New Jersey, New York and Virginia, smoke-free hotels can also be found in Delaware, California and Oklahoma, said Jeff Higley, editor in chief of the industry journal Hotel & Motel Management. There are an estimated 4.4 million hotel rooms in the United States.

Just over a month ago in Basking Ridge, about a half-hour drive west of New York City, the 171-room North Maple Inn dropped the last of its rooms for smokers. The North Maple, which caters to Fortune 500 travelers and wedding parties, now charges a $250 cleaning fee to guests who light up in their rooms - the amount the hotel says it costs to get rid of the smell.

Smokers at the North Maple are free to use five outdoor areas, including a courtyard where they can order drinks.

Some North Maple guests attending a recent corporate conference huddled outside a side entrance, chatting over a morning cigarette.

New Yorker Jonathan Smith said the policy was most bothersome just before bedtime and first thing in the morning. After putting up with the policy for three days, the 27-year smoker said: "I feel like I've been here my whole life."

Audrey Silk of the New York group Citizens Lobbying Against Smoker Harassment does not welcome the trend either: "A hotel is where you go to relax. If they're telling me I can't smoke in my room, that's not a vacation."


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As a non-smoker, some of my favorite memories are when I was living in Tennessee and went out to eat in a nice restaurant. (Yes, they have some of these in TN.) The hostess would ask, "smoking or non-smoking?" I asked for non-smoking. Then she would seat me in the non-smoking area which happened to be about 12 1/2 inches from the smoking area. I just loved trying to enjoy my meal while inhaling 32 toxic gasses, included cyanide and carbon monoxide.
1 posted on 09/18/2003 12:45:25 PM PDT by hoosierskypilot
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To: hoosierskypilot
Oh, please, this has nothing to do with health, and you know it. Mr. Der Bogosian gives it away: he doesn't even want to SMELL cigarettes, even if there is no real smoke present. Bunch of fastidious whiners. Maybe I will just go around farting, just to soil the air of the smell police.
2 posted on 09/18/2003 12:50:18 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: hoosierskypilot
As someone said, having smoking and non-smoking areas in a restaurant is like having peeing and non-peeing areas in a swimming pool.
3 posted on 09/18/2003 12:51:23 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: Trailerpark Badass
I travel a great deal and have probably spent over $50,000 on hotels in the last 12 months. I will be more than happy to spend these dollars at hotels that allow me to smoke. Its the owner's choice to decide what goes and doesen't go in their business, but its my choice where i spend my money. So if you want to be that way, say ciao to my $$$$$!!!!
4 posted on 09/18/2003 12:57:17 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (E)
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To: hoosierskypilot
Send em over my way, in the form of a hand rolled CEEE-GARR!
5 posted on 09/18/2003 12:59:14 PM PDT by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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Thankfully, my high-milage traveling days are over, but it's instructive to see that non-smokers are abandoning the pretext that their concerns are health-related. No cigarette smoke would remain in a hotel room that could be dangerous to the next guest. They just don't like the smell.

Now, as consumers, they have every right to patronize businesses that cater to their needs, and private businesses have every right to cater to them. But using health concerns to insure their access to odor-free air is fraudulent. I wonder if any of them find the medical marijuana argument distasteful in the same way?

6 posted on 09/18/2003 1:02:34 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: hoosierskypilot
I'm a non-smoker that disagrees with the government forcing businesses to become non-smoking. But if this decision was made by the businesses of their own accord then I have no problem with that.
7 posted on 09/18/2003 1:04:48 PM PDT by TXBubba (Someday I'll change my name to TXBubbette)
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I just loved trying to enjoy my meal while inhaling 32 toxic gasses, included cyanide and carbon monoxide.

Here comes the call for government guns to force people to run their business as YOU see fit.

8 posted on 09/18/2003 1:09:48 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: TXBubba
I'm a non-smoker that disagrees with the government forcing businesses to become non-smoking. But if this decision was made by the businesses of their own accord then I have no problem with that.

Bingo!

9 posted on 09/18/2003 1:10:33 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: omega4412
LOL!!
10 posted on 09/18/2003 1:13:20 PM PDT by hoosierskypilot
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To: omega4412
As someone said, having smoking and non-smoking areas in a restaurant is like having peeing and non-peeing areas in a swimming pool.

ROFL! I never thought of it that way!

11 posted on 09/18/2003 1:14:55 PM PDT by CheneyChick (Kah-lee-fohr-nyah)
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To: omega4412
As someone said, having smoking and non-smoking areas in a restaurant is like having peeing and non-peeing areas in a swimming pool.

Your analogy is apt inasmuch as both the pool and the restaurant will dilute the concentration of harmful substances to the point that only a hypochondriac would worry about it.

12 posted on 09/18/2003 1:18:09 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Protagoras
I don't know about that, but three things I like about CA: 1) the weather, 2) the endless variety of fresh foods and 3) the fact that there is no smoking in any public facility.

I knew a guy who loved to pass gas (he was a youngster, at the time). He loved the sound, the sensation and even the odor (of his own, only, I suspect). But nobody around him, including his parents, enjoyed the event. They felt it was intrusive, rude and ill-mannered.

Ditto for smoking in public.

13 posted on 09/18/2003 1:18:25 PM PDT by hoosierskypilot
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To: Trailerpark Badass
LOL...That would be a great scene in a movie. Some American's are become so sensitive.

I also find it amazing that our politicians can ban smoking across the land but can't stop illegal immigration. The politicians must be getting a kickback from the smugglers.

DC mayor just said a curfew is an option. This windy weather is so overblown in the media. DC is shut down for 2 days.

14 posted on 09/18/2003 1:24:47 PM PDT by Major_Risktaker
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To: hoosierskypilot
They felt it was intrusive, rude and ill-mannered.

But not unhealthy. Thank you for your candor.

15 posted on 09/18/2003 1:26:50 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Trailerpark Badass
As someone said, having smoking and non-smoking areas in a restaurant is like having peeing and non-peeing areas in a swimming pool

I sure wish they had non-democrat seating areas. I could go for an eating establishment that would keep THOSE yahoos out. They make me physically ill. /S
16 posted on 09/18/2003 1:38:07 PM PDT by Roughneck (Like Terrorists? Vote for democrats in 2004.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass; hoosierskypilot
They felt it was intrusive, rude and ill-mannered.

But not unhealthy. Thank you for your candor.

And when government panders to these "feelings" by legislation, they're wrong. When business owners make business decisions - even ones I don't like - I'm free to find others who see it my way.

BTW, in a restaurant with properly designed ventilation, smokers and non-smokers can each be satisfied. Merely designating a portion as "non-smoking" doesn't cut it. In common areas, such as the cashier's and maitre d's areas, as well as waiting rooms, the restaurant would probably choose to make them non-smoking.

17 posted on 09/18/2003 1:42:36 PM PDT by jimt
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To: Trailerpark Badass
I appreciate your plight. Really, I do. I, too, was addicted to nicotene. I started with cigarettes, then pipes, then (hand-rolled) cigars, then leaf chewing tobacco, then Skoal (I loved that one!), then nicotene chewing gum.

But then I married a nurse who began to point out that certain of my health problems were related to the toxin, nicotene. So, I told her she was wrong, and went to my doc for proof. He confirmed what she said, so I decided to stop for awhile. The health problems (mostly cardio-vascular) went away.

The fact is that 500,000 people die in the U.S. every year from cigarettes. If they simply died, that might be one thing. But they linger. And we pay for it in the form of lost productivity and higher taxes (to pay for their health-care).

Anything to discourage people from nicotene is good.

18 posted on 09/18/2003 1:53:37 PM PDT by hoosierskypilot
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To: hoosierskypilot
"in Basking Ridge, about a half-hour drive west of New York City, the 171-room North Maple Inn"
My brother is a manager at this hotel !!! What a hoot!!! I`ve been there many times. Used to be "The AT&T Learning Center ".
19 posted on 09/18/2003 1:53:46 PM PDT by Peace will be here soon
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To: Protagoras
as YOU see fit

Govt does nothing as "I" see fit. I have less than zero voice in our prevailing oligarchy. But, like you, I applaud decisions that are made with which I happen to agree.

20 posted on 09/18/2003 1:56:18 PM PDT by hoosierskypilot
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