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THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ^
| Wednesday, August 27, 2003
| VANESSA O'CONNELL
Posted on 08/27/2003 7:03:29 AM PDT by presidio9
Edited on 04/22/2004 11:49:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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RIKERS ISLAND, N.Y. -- For years, inmates trekked to the commissary, off a dingy hallway here in this huge New York City jail complex, to buy cigarettes. Tobacco companies also furnished them with free T-shirts and socks emblazoned with the Kool and Newport logos. Cigarette makers gave the jail sports equipment, board games and, for a time, cash awards that funded antiviolence videos and inmate holiday parties.
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: pufflist
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To: thoughtomator
The people you're talking to are dedicated WoD freaks, and have already decided the Constitution isn't worth spit. Seems that way. Thanks for the insight.
To: thoughtomator
What does the percentage matter? What percent of innocent citizens denied their Constitutional rights is acceptable to you? You claim that innocent people are in prison. Your claim has no credibility without a basis.
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:07:04 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: thoughtomator
What does the percentage matter? Because you have been nailed for false information on this thread; your credibility is zilch.
43
posted on
08/27/2003 8:08:03 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: cinFLA
Really? What have I said that is false? And where does the most dishonest person on FR get off evaluating anyone else's credibility?
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:12:08 AM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(Welcome to the Iraq Roach Motel - Islamofascists check in, but they don't check out!)
To: cinFLA
Your figures for EDC are absolutely untrue. Again you insist I should believe you over my own personal experience. Again I decline, since you lie and deceive habitually.
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:14:10 AM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(Welcome to the Iraq Roach Motel - Islamofascists check in, but they don't check out!)
To: thoughtomator
Your figures for EDC are absolutely untrue. Again you insist I should believe you over my own personal experience. Again I decline, since you lie and deceive habitually. Hmmm. Caught in a lie and can't back up your numbers.
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:21:30 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: cinFLA
Caught in a lie and can't back up your numbers. That's never stopped them before. Only decent people who understand reality are required to provide proof. You should know that.
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:24:28 AM PDT
by
presidio9
(Run Al Run!!!)
To: montag813
Now ban drugs, weightlifting, MTV and rape of white inmates (other than paedophiles).But continue the power-trip raping of black, brown and yellow inmates?
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:26:15 AM PDT
by
metesky
("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
To: cinFLA
You deny my numbers, but your assertion that the EDC charges whatever price is
prima facie erroneous. EDC doesn't charge spit, because the phone services for inmates are supplied by private companies.
Which you would know if you had the slightest bit of actual experience in the matter. Clearly, you don't, and you're talking out of your ass.
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:26:35 AM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(Welcome to the Iraq Roach Motel - Islamofascists check in, but they don't check out!)
To: thoughtomator
Again I decline, since you lie and deceive habitually. The one caught lying here is YOU!
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:27:04 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: cinFLA
The one caught lying here is YOU! The Internet equivalent of sticking one's fingers in one's ears and chanting, "Nyah nyah! Liar liar pants on fire!"... how compelling.
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:28:54 AM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(Welcome to the Iraq Roach Motel - Islamofascists check in, but they don't check out!)
To: thoughtomator
You deny my numbers, but your assertion that the EDC charges whatever price is prima facie erroneous. EDC doesn't charge spit, because the phone services for inmates are supplied by private companies. At the rates I provided above.
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:30:42 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: thoughtomator
Which you would know if you had the slightest bit of actual experience in the matter. Clearly, you don't, and you're talking out of your ass. I've seen my share of lying defense lawyers.
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:31:07 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: metesky
But continue the power-trip raping of black, brown and yellow inmates? Of course not, but white inmates are raped at a rate 30-50 times greater than "minority" inmates (according to the SCI)
To: thoughtomator
EDC doesn't charge spit, because the phone services for inmates are supplied by private companies.Really? You mean EDC has NO involvement in the phone service charges? I thought your original complaint was that these facilities were marking up the bills for profit! Seems you have defused your initial issue.
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:35:43 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: cinFLA
No, my original complaint is that the phone charges are excessive to the point where they violate the Sixth Amendment.
Since your brain automatically deletes anything referring to the Constitution, I'm not surprised you have a twisted conception of the original proposition.
Of course, by even asking the question, you've just admitted that you are in fact the one who is lying here.
I'm sick of your dishonest anti-Constitutionalist rantings.
Required reading for you and your ilk:
http://www.constitution.org/cons/constitu.htm That's the law of the land, your infantile prejudice is not. Get used to it.
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:44:56 AM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(Welcome to the Iraq Roach Motel - Islamofascists check in, but they don't check out!)
To: presidio9
Odd how people who usually respect free markets do such a fast U-turn when it comes to screwing over cons.
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:48:25 AM PDT
by
ZviTheWise
(Silence=Death)
To: ZviTheWise
In what way does a monopoly provider represent the free market? An actual free market would produce market-level prices, which is exactly what I am arguing is required.
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:50:24 AM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(Welcome to the Iraq Roach Motel - Islamofascists check in, but they don't check out!)
To: ZviTheWise
Not at all. Cons have forfeited their right to be regarded as mambers of society. That's why we can take their lives or deny them the right to vote.
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:51:10 AM PDT
by
presidio9
(Run Al Run!!!)
To: thoughtomator
In what way does a monopoly provider represent the free market? An actual free market would produce market-level prices, which is exactly what I am arguing is required. Your $5+ per minute is about 5x the highest charge documented on the internet by the numerous 'prisoner rights' organizations. You better get the info to them!
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posted on
08/27/2003 8:57:02 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
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