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Smoking and Property Rights
Ludwig Von Mises Institute ^ | June 19, 2003 | William L. Anderson

Posted on 07/30/2003 9:24:30 AM PDT by CSM

A week ago I received an email that was part of a mass mailing by an anti-smoking activist who was championing all of the new "smoke-free" legislation that is being churned out by state, local, and national governments around the world.

Although I am not a smoker, I must admit to having more than a passing interest in the recent assault on tobacco companies and individuals who use tobacco. (See the recent article by Candice Jackson and me on tobacco litigation.) For the most part, when I receive emails from people and organizations that I believe are anti-freedom, I discard them, but in this case I answered and the director and I then followed with an interesting exchange of emails. From what I read both in his responses to my question, and to the questions that he asked, I was able to look into what I can only say is a totalitarian mindset.

Yes, the activists claim they are only protecting public health and keeping individuals from unwanted intrusions into their "private space," but the methods that they employ only can be successful when government seizes private property—with no compensation for the owners, of course.

After successfully forcing tobacco companies to finance government spending schemes, along with advertisements that use propaganda methods in an attempt to convince people not to smoke, the next step has been to ban smoking in "the workplace." While most of us tend to think of workplaces as offices and the like, the definition that the activists use is much wider, and especially includes establishments like bars and restaurants, which traditionally have been favorite haunts of smokers.

The smoking ban in bars and restaurants in New York City received publicity when a smoker became so enraged after being told to leave a bar that he killed the bouncer. Although anti-smoking activists have jumped on the situation as an example of why smokers are dangerous people, the incident does little to tell us that the real problem with the bans is that they are a form of state theft.

Advocates for "smoke-free workplaces" contend that since nonsmokers work in bars and restaurants, and that since even second-hand smoke contains so-called Class A carcinogens that in large doses can cause cancer, people should be entitled to "safe" places wherein to work. In other words, by banning smoking in these places, government simply is protecting the "rights" of workers.

On the surface, such arguments may sound good, but when one barely scratches the surface, they not only are specious, but downright dangerous. Such laws amount to a confiscation of property. Whatever governing body makes the ruling is using force to limit behavior that can occur on private property, yet it is the owner who is liable for enforcing the rule—on pain of losing the property and perhaps even his or her freedom. Property owners, who in a free market would be able to decide on their own whether or not they want to permit smoking, have that right taken away from them by the state.

One forgets that people who either are employees or patrons of a bar or restaurant are there by choice. To put it another way, those individuals who decide either to work at such an establishment or to eat and drink there freely have made the decision to spend time at that place. No restaurant or bar owner can force anyone to work or eat at his or her establishment, so at best, the state is "rescuing" people from their own free choices, which means that the political authorities—and the activists cheering them on—are in effect also coercing those workers and patrons into making choices that meet state approval.

Much has been made of nonsmokers being "victims" of passive smoke created by smokers. Those of us who are nonsmokers on occasions have complained about breathing the smoke of others, to be sure, and there have been times when I have not gone to certain places where people were smoking. However, it is one thing for me to refuse to patronize a place where people are smoking; it is quite another to employ the state as a vehicle to impose my desires upon others.

The anti-smoking policies in effect give disaffected persons (along with politicians and activists) de facto property rights, something I pointed out to the activist. His response was as follows: "I think ALL Group A carcinogens should be prohibited in the workplace, to the extent possible."

The "Class A Carcinogens" argument, while at first sounding good, is yet another rhetorical trick. According to cancer researchers, tobacco smoke carries the "Class A" carcinogens, and these supposedly also have an effect upon nonsmokers. Given the political motivation of much anti-tobacco research, one must take these results with a very large bag of salt. (For example, the media recently trumpeted a "study" which claimed that smoking bans could cut heart attacks in half. Jacob Sullum of the Reason Foundation clearly debunks that and other studies.

However, as I pointed out in my responses, there are many hazards in this world, and his reasoning would give unhappy people an absolute veto power over nearly everything. For example, if one is able to walk into any establishment and demand people stop smoking, would not someone who is offended by "R" rated movies have the right to order the theater to stop showing that particular film? For that matter, all of us are quite aware of the dangers of alcoholic beverages, and if it is dangerous for people to smoke, it certainly can also be dangerous for them to drink.

That being the case, one would expect the political authorities to be so concerned about alcohol abuse that they order bars and restaurants to stop serving such beverages, or at least permit anyone to enter a bar and declare that all drinking must be stopped.

In fact, if one really wants to get at the source of most cancers, there is the sun. If these public health cancer fighters truly were serious about keeping Americans from being exposed to the dangers of cancer, then they would demand legislation that either would prevent the sun from shining or at least require that we block all windows during the day and venture out only at night, something reminiscent of Frederic Bastiat's "Petition of the Candlemakers."

However, my activist email partner emphasized time and again that he wanted only the "Class A" carcinogens to be eliminated from the workplace. That is not as easy a task as one might think, even if all tobacco smoke is eliminated. Carcinogens, you see, come in all places, including clothing and carpet. It is nearly impossible to go through life without coming into contact with such things.

Thus, the safety issue is nothing more than a red herring, or yet another version of the "Camel's Nose." Anti-tobacco activists most likely will not stop until we have something akin to the 1920s version of Prohibition, this time tobacco being the target, the failures of alcohol and drug bans not affecting them in the least.

While many libertarians have fashioned the argument as a contest between the rights of smokers and nonsmokers, it is a mistake to stop there. There are no doubts that conflicting rights exist here, but legislation targeting tobacco use is not the answer. The real issue here is not whether the law will be used as a mediation device between smokers and nonsmokers, but rather the fact that activists are using the state as a vehicle to hijack private property rights and to take choices away from individuals who are quite capable of thinking for themselves.

"If one abolishes man's freedom to determine his own consumption, one takes all freedoms away," writes Mises.

The decision of whether or not to ban smoking on private property should be solely left up to the property owner, period. Furthermore, individuals who choose to work or patronize such places should not be permitted to claim later that secondhand smoke made them sick (and then have a jury make them multimillionaires).

For all of the "halo-effect" that supposedly surrounds anti-smoking activists, they are little more than closet thieves. Yes, free speech dictates that they should be able to say what they want in a proper forum. And, yes, private property rights should also dictate that they mind their own business when it comes to the property of others.

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William Anderson, an adjunct scholar of the Mises Institute, teaches economics at Frostburg State University. Send him MAIL. See his Mises.org Articles Archive.


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1 posted on 07/30/2003 9:24:31 AM PDT by CSM
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To: Gabz; SheLion; Flurry; Just another Joe
Another one for you. Just trying to keep you from getting bored! ;-)
2 posted on 07/30/2003 9:25:20 AM PDT by CSM (To be anti smoking is to be anti life! Ayn Rand, provided to me by Beckett)
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To: CSM
The lifestyle nazis want to eventually regulate what we eat, drink, smoke, and how we have sex at home. I kid y'all not!
3 posted on 07/30/2003 9:27:02 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
It's okay - it's for the children </gag>
4 posted on 07/30/2003 9:30:35 AM PDT by talleyman (E=mc2 (before taxes))
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To: CSM
I read where a bar owner in New York is allowing smoking of herb cigarettes which are not covered under the non-smoking law because it is the carcinogens in tobacco that are supposedly harmful.

Interesting to see how far this herb cigarette thing goes.

It must be driving the antis nuts!!!!
5 posted on 07/30/2003 9:34:51 AM PDT by Mears
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To: CSM
"***Much has been made of nonsmokers being "victims" of passive smoke created by smokers***"

Just a minute portion of this excellent piece. But must comment. There are many "victims" of perfumes as well, asthma attacks can be brought on by the heavy-handed use of perfumes and colgnes - these attacks can cause death quicker than passive smoke - where is the outrage?
6 posted on 07/30/2003 9:36:32 AM PDT by Roughneck (Starve the Beast!)
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To: CSM
I heard a new colliquialism this am - "freedom grabbers" - can apply now to speech, thought, perfume, hamburgers, sport vehicles, tobacco, guns ...
7 posted on 07/30/2003 9:37:10 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: Mears
Interesting to see how far this herb cigarette thing goes

Hmm, herb cigarettes. Non taxed product as well, doubleplusgood.
8 posted on 07/30/2003 9:38:30 AM PDT by steve50 (the main problem with voting is a politican always wins)
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To: CSM
They are akin to Nazis.
9 posted on 07/30/2003 9:39:30 AM PDT by johnb838 (A sucking chest wound is natures way of telling you to slow down.)
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To: Mears
I read where a bar owner in New York is allowing smoking of herb cigarettes which are not covered under the non-smoking law because it is the carcinogens in tobacco that are supposedly harmful.

Actually it is a bar owner in Delaware.

He beat the violation of the smoking ban because the health department could not prove that the cigarettes being smoked in the bar contained tobacco.

Bot the New and Delaware bans only state tobacco - the herbal cigarettes contain no tobacco at all.

The antis are already working in Delaware to change the language of the law.

10 posted on 07/30/2003 9:41:08 AM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers - personification of everything wrong in this country.)
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To: CSM
Anyone who accepts the government's power to outlaw any drug must, logically accepth the government's power to regulate tobacco to any extent including outright prohibition.

Those who support the legal sanctions around private drug use must accept the validity of legal sanctions around any drug, including tobacco.

MANDATORY DISCLAIMER: I do not use any drug or drink stronger than Kenya AA coffee and only use that once a day. I do not advocate the use of any drug and firmly believe that the world would be a better place if everybody was sober. END DISCLAIMER

11 posted on 07/30/2003 9:51:13 AM PDT by muir_redwoods
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To: Gabz
I love the herb cig idea. What brands are they selling? I guess the antis trying to change the language of the law once again proves our point that it is not about health at all! It is about control.
12 posted on 07/30/2003 9:51:14 AM PDT by CSM (To be anti smoking is to be anti life! Ayn Rand, provided to me by Beckett)
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To: muir_redwoods
How about regulation of foods. The FDA regulates foods as well as drugs, would you go for a ban on red meat? Just because some regulation takes place does not allow for personal freedoms to be overridden by any government.
13 posted on 07/30/2003 9:53:31 AM PDT by CSM (To be anti smoking is to be anti life! Ayn Rand, provided to me by Beckett)
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To: talleyman
If these public health cancer fighters truly were serious about keeping Americans from being exposed to the dangers of cancer, then they would demand legislation that either would prevent the sun from shining or at least require that we block all windows during the day and venture out only at night, something reminiscent of Frederic Bastiat's "Petition of the Candlemakers."

very rich.
14 posted on 07/30/2003 9:54:15 AM PDT by Damen
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To: CSM
Whatever governing body makes the ruling is using force to limit behavior that can occur on private property, yet it is the owner who is liable for enforcing the rule—on pain of losing the property and perhaps even his or her freedom. Property owners, who in a free market would be able to decide on their own whether or not they want to permit smoking, have that right taken away from them by the state.

Hmmm.. this is probably the weakest argument in the article. The logical end result of this point of view is that government has no power to regulate anything that goes on on private property. That's a nice idea, but it's not really based on any type of constitutional basis- property rights are not unlimited and are open to regulation, as long as such regulation passes constitutional muster. You'd have to throw drug laws, workplace safety laws, sexual harassment laws etc. out the window. Some people might be in favor of doing so, but the end results would be disastrous to our society.

For example, if one is able to walk into any establishment and demand people stop smoking, would not someone who is offended by "R" rated movies have the right to order the theater to stop showing that particular film?

Not really the same- the basis for banning smoking in public places is the potential harm caused to others. The actual damage done by second-hand smoke is an issue best left for the scientific types. However, no one can make an argument that R-rated movies lead to actual physical harm.

15 posted on 07/30/2003 9:54:28 AM PDT by Modernman
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To: CSM
a totalitarian mindset

This is possibly a misreading of the phenomenon. It is a social experiment, and obviously of little significance. When a segment of society deliberately goes off in a new direction they are attempting a deliberate mutation of society. Such attempts are always non-productive, useless, and have no no lasting impact. The problem is that they are behaving like an individual who goes into seclusion at the edge of society thinking that he will advance his own development to its maximum by eliminating the constant interference of society, or maybe more like a larger group, China for example, who think they are somehow the leading edge of evolution and their way is the right way. This is not multiculturalism, not pluralism, not one earth, not New World Order, not DARPA thinking outside the box, not anything that has a future. These people are parked on a railroad siding of history and the rest of society is moving on down the express track at maximum speed. They have taken themselves out of the game.

16 posted on 07/30/2003 9:55:39 AM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: *puff_list
Ping to the Puff List for smoking related articles.
17 posted on 07/30/2003 10:01:37 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: CSM
If smoking were to become illegal as the anti's want, what are they going to demand that we buy to make up the tax money smoking generates? The states won't want to lose the revenue.
18 posted on 07/30/2003 10:06:53 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: Gabz
Sorry,Delaware it is.

How can they just change the law to include herb cigs? Wasn't the whole point of the ETS nonsense the carcinogens in tobacco smoke?

If they change the law to include all smoke wouldn't that include all the smoky barbecue restaurants that are all over the place.


19 posted on 07/30/2003 10:14:35 AM PDT by Mears
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To: CSM
I don't know what brand they are selling - I do know however they are rather expensive - but I will find out.

You are correct about it being about control and not about health.
20 posted on 07/30/2003 10:23:56 AM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers - personification of everything wrong in this country.)
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