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Internet gay cannibalism net widens
expatica ^ | 7/17/03

Posted on 07/17/2003 10:46:08 PM PDT by knak

KASSEL - Prosecutors Thursday said they have filed a murder indictment against one of two gay men who met in an Internet chat room, where it allegedly was agreed that one of them would kill and devour the other.

And in a stunning new development, prosecutors in Kassel said they are broadening the investigation to include some 430 other persons believed to have been involved in the Internet gay cannibalism chat room that led to the death of a 42-year-old man in March 2001.

Prosecutors are convinced that the victim, a computer analyst from Berlin, agreed to be killed and eaten. His dismembered and partially devoured remains were found at the residence of a 41-year-old suspect.

That suspect, identified only as Armin M., has been charged with murder. Cannibalism per se is not a crime under German law.

Despite the fact that the victim willingly agreed to be killed, prosecutors said the case could not be considered "assisted suicide". So they opted for a murder indictment.

Prosecutors Thursday said the suspect has admitted videotaping himself killing the Berlin man, a computer chip developer at Siemens corporation, identified only as Bernd Juergen B.

On the morning of his disappearance from Berlin on March 9, 2001, Bernd Juergen B. completed his will. He left the bulk of his estate including a lavish penthouse apartment and EUR 50,000 worth of computer equipment to his live-in partner, a man named Rene.

According to police, the victim had several thousand dollars in cash and his passport when he travelled 300 kilometres from Berlin to the alleged murderer's house near Kassel.

Searching the rambling, 30-room, half-timbered house in the village of Rotenburg, investigators unearthed skeletal remains, some of them packaged in a freezer, along with videotapes and CD-ROMs on which the suspect allegedly recorded his actions.

Authorities were tipped off to the crime by internet surfers who stumbled upon chat room requests allegedly posted by the suspect in which he was looking for people willing to be slaughtered and eaten by him.


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To: Otto von Bismark
You are correct about "Menschenfresser"--although "fressen" is also a slang term for eating--however Armin is a good ol' German name.
81 posted on 07/19/2003 6:40:28 AM PDT by austinTparty
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To: knak
"Our Diversity Is Our Strength!"
82 posted on 07/19/2003 6:42:34 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: Cultural Jihad
No substantive answers from tpaine to simple, straightforward questions. Just mealy-mouthed crabbing and silly juvenile threats.

It is abundantly clear tpaine has no logical, rational reasons to support his flaky SCOTUS superlegislature-worshipping views other than the fact that he panics at the thought that his fellow citizens might be more persuasive in convincing their representatives to regulate and minimize the damage inflicted by twisted, morally bankrupt, self-obsessed, diseased, and grossly perverted leaches who live out their existences by partying hearty and passing on the costs of the party to the taxpayer.

They steal from the rest of us to support their lifestyles and tpaine is anxious that SCOTUS keep the rest of us from doing anything about their pro-dope, pro-porn, pro-sodomy addictions.

It's the gramscian socialism model being implemented with a vengeance. It's tpaine to the snivelling core.

83 posted on 07/19/2003 6:45:53 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: knak
It might be possible the guy just said "I'm just dying for you to eat me," and the other guy misunderstood.
84 posted on 07/19/2003 6:46:45 AM PDT by Junior (Killed a six pack ... just to watch it die.)
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To: knak
this is bad enough....a man named Rene

The name Rene can be female or male much like the English names Douglas and Michael.

85 posted on 07/19/2003 6:50:19 AM PDT by Diva
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To: tpaine
He's a friend. Besides, he did post a "< /sarcasm>" tag on his post that got you so riled--hence my question. Obviously, his post was intended as a parody statement exposing the logical (or illogical, if you prefer) extent of objectivist libertarianism's beliefs. After all, both men were consenting, there was no use of fraud or force as far as the story says . . . I don't think his post was inappropriate as such.
86 posted on 07/19/2003 8:35:13 AM PDT by Buggman (Stephen King has forgotten the face of his Father)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband; *Homosexual Agenda; GrandMoM; backhoe; pram; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; ...
More homosexuals are crazy ping.

You do realize this isn't representative of all homosexuals, don't you? I mean, just because some gays are cannibals, some are bug chasers (seeking HIV), percentagewise gays are more likely to molest children, gays can't reproduce so they have to recruit, etc, doesn't mean they're crazy or mentally ill. </sarcasm>

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87 posted on 07/19/2003 8:43:37 AM PDT by scripter
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To: Kevin Curry
You're telling us a lot about yourself, and nothing about anyone else.

Yes he is. As I see it, he's trying to squelch the debate so less folks know the truth about some homosexuals.

88 posted on 07/19/2003 8:51:53 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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To: tpaine; Kevin Curry; Buggman; scripter

Libertarians call these free, self-willed and fully consensual individuals 'demented'? Isn't that like a moral judgement on your part? And if so, why should it all be any of your business? Should fully consenting adults have to get your permission first before they can eat whatever they want to? Are you going to police their every forkfull and monitor their every bite? Or is your statement about the harm they cause just so much bluster since libertarians think people should be free to go out and harm and murder each other if that's what they really want to do?

89 posted on 07/19/2003 8:57:55 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: knak


"Not tonight; I'm having an old friend for dinner."
90 posted on 07/19/2003 9:01:37 AM PDT by hemogoblin
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To: Charles Henrickson
Armin Mouth?

I've got to be careful about eating and Freeping. Your post almost made me choke on my eggs. Love your new tagline, too.

91 posted on 07/19/2003 9:05:04 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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To: weegee
In Texas it is "illegal" to procure organs/severed limbs for compensation; it is possible that a hospital worker could steal such castoffs for himself (although the theft would be a crime that the hospital could persue).

Guess that puts the lie to the old story about why being a Jewish rabbi who does circumcisions is such a great job. (The pay is lousy but the tips are spectacular).

92 posted on 07/19/2003 9:05:48 AM PDT by strela ("Each of us can find a maggot in our past which will happily devour our futures." Horatio Hornblower)
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To: gd124
I doubt it's specifically a crime under American law either. What's your point?

Don't most states have laws about proper disposal of bodies?

93 posted on 07/19/2003 9:09:13 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Those dastardly necrophiliaphobes! Someone needs to run to the Supreme Court to fight for the right to privacy to engage in this evil, too!

94 posted on 07/19/2003 9:18:05 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Otto von Bismark
Let me translate his name: "Armin" is usually a Turkish/Arabic name if my memory serves me right. "Menschenfresser" translates to "Man Eater" but,...in German Language "essen" is "eating" for Humans, unlike "fressen" is "eating" for non humans...so, the translation of his name would be something like "Animal Like Man Eater".

"Oh-oh here she comes... watch out boy, she'll chew you up..."

95 posted on 07/19/2003 9:19:39 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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To: Kevin Curry
Sticks & stones, mr dementio....
96 posted on 07/19/2003 9:41:44 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but principles keep getting in me way.)
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To: Buggman
Defend #83.
97 posted on 07/19/2003 9:43:01 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but principles keep getting in me way.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Yep, I call them, and you & your buddies here demented. Learn to live with it.
As long as you continue your silly pings & slurs, I will continue to answer in kind.
98 posted on 07/19/2003 9:49:01 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but principles keep getting in me way.)
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To: tpaine; Kevin Curry; Buggman
Your sense of what is someone else's slur is pretty sensitive, far too refined for the ears of us mere mortals. Kevin did nothing to deserve your sort of vitriol.

Anyone who publicly holds to a philosophy which makes consent into an absolute right should be pinged to this news story, and asked how such a horror would ever be stopped in his fantasy Me-ocracy. If he can't defend the indefensible, then the problem is not his philosophy but rather the stalking individual who dares to force him from his cocoon of self-imposed ignorance, and defrauds him of the surety of his True Beliefs.

Perhaps the demented one is he who likes to gripe about how unfairly he is being treated all the time, when anyone can view on this thread how he himself treats others. Don't anyone dare say "Hey, tpaine!" to him, or else he might accuse you of calling him cattle fodder, and retaliate in kind. ;-)


99 posted on 07/19/2003 10:21:26 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Only CJ and his ilk think necrophilia is consenting sex. What a wonderful world.
100 posted on 07/19/2003 10:24:53 AM PDT by breakem
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