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Internet gay cannibalism net widens
expatica ^ | 7/17/03

Posted on 07/17/2003 10:46:08 PM PDT by knak

KASSEL - Prosecutors Thursday said they have filed a murder indictment against one of two gay men who met in an Internet chat room, where it allegedly was agreed that one of them would kill and devour the other.

And in a stunning new development, prosecutors in Kassel said they are broadening the investigation to include some 430 other persons believed to have been involved in the Internet gay cannibalism chat room that led to the death of a 42-year-old man in March 2001.

Prosecutors are convinced that the victim, a computer analyst from Berlin, agreed to be killed and eaten. His dismembered and partially devoured remains were found at the residence of a 41-year-old suspect.

That suspect, identified only as Armin M., has been charged with murder. Cannibalism per se is not a crime under German law.

Despite the fact that the victim willingly agreed to be killed, prosecutors said the case could not be considered "assisted suicide". So they opted for a murder indictment.

Prosecutors Thursday said the suspect has admitted videotaping himself killing the Berlin man, a computer chip developer at Siemens corporation, identified only as Bernd Juergen B.

On the morning of his disappearance from Berlin on March 9, 2001, Bernd Juergen B. completed his will. He left the bulk of his estate including a lavish penthouse apartment and EUR 50,000 worth of computer equipment to his live-in partner, a man named Rene.

According to police, the victim had several thousand dollars in cash and his passport when he travelled 300 kilometres from Berlin to the alleged murderer's house near Kassel.

Searching the rambling, 30-room, half-timbered house in the village of Rotenburg, investigators unearthed skeletal remains, some of them packaged in a freezer, along with videotapes and CD-ROMs on which the suspect allegedly recorded his actions.

Authorities were tipped off to the crime by internet surfers who stumbled upon chat room requests allegedly posted by the suspect in which he was looking for people willing to be slaughtered and eaten by him.


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To: jmc813
Since you obviously don't know his stand on open borders, you know nothing about him and are a waste of time.

Fool yourself if you need to, but don't try it on people who have actually heard his speeches and seen him interviewed.

And my opinion of him has nothing to do with Bush (don't know how you came to that absurd conclusion). It has to do with the exasperation of other GOP House members who are actually trying to stop the Democrats...not grandstanding for the cameras.

I'm ignoring the rest of your post since you obviously know nothing about the man or his positions.

141 posted on 07/19/2003 3:41:00 PM PDT by Deb (Do these jeans make my tag look big?)
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To: scripter
While I usually enjoy the writings of tpaine and tdadams, I get the feeling (and perhaps I'm wrong), they think we should let consenting adults do whatever they want no matter what the consequences or cost on society, both morally and financially.
If that's their position then I have to vehemently disagree.
126 -scripter-



You're wrong.
You've been suckered in by the big lie as posted virtually every day by KC, CJ and crowd.

I've been very consistent here on this about that.
I think we should let consenting adults do whatever they want as long as they don't scare the horses.
142 posted on 07/19/2003 3:42:31 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but principles keep getting in me way.)
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To: tpaine
Huh?

I never know what you're talking about, but I figure sitting in your own urine for so long has affected your brain.

143 posted on 07/19/2003 3:44:14 PM PDT by Deb (Do these jeans make my tag look big?)
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To: scripter; Bozo
John has talked of a 'bozo filter' from time to time.
It won't work on FR, imo. - Too many bozos.
144 posted on 07/19/2003 3:45:32 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but principles keep getting in me way.)
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To: Deb
Gee deb, you used to be a fun gal. Sorry.
Its hell to get old and crabby.
145 posted on 07/19/2003 3:51:14 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but principles keep getting in me way.)
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To: tpaine
but I figure sitting in your own urine for so long has affected your brain.

LOL...emasculation is so barbaric yet effective and even humorous when used like a WMD.

146 posted on 07/19/2003 3:54:02 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Cultural Jihad
..if they are unable to defend the indefensible then that's hardly the fault of those who would query their philosophy...

That all sounds reasonable, if we didn't know that those who 'query their philosophy' ad infinitum, are doing it for the twisted enjoyment of safe, online, provocation. The 'I'm challenging evil' argument is a transparent excuse which might be believable for one or two threads, but not for those who make a career of baiting Libertarians, here. They enjoy it above all else, and that's why we see so few contributions from them, on other issues. Cheers, By

147 posted on 07/19/2003 3:54:52 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: tpaine
You do know that you are talking to someone other than your wife or your night nurse, don't you?
148 posted on 07/19/2003 3:55:58 PM PDT by Deb (Do these jeans make my tag look big?)
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To: DainBramage
Deb was FR's queen of mean emasculators. Gotta love her, no matter how fast shes fading.
149 posted on 07/19/2003 4:03:59 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but principles keep getting in me way.)
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To: tpaine
She's never emasculated me...she just kinds of makes me do her bidding and then tells me to get the hell out.

Sometimes she loans me her clothes too.

150 posted on 07/19/2003 4:10:13 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: tpaine
You've been suckered in by the big lie as posted virtually every day by KC, CJ and crowd.

On that you're wrong because my take on your position is based solely on what you've said not what others have said about you. Sometimes you just come across in an ambiguous way.

I think we should let consenting adults do whatever they want as long as they don't scare the horses.

Okay. Now that is a little ambiguous! Or, you're saying let consenting adults do whatever they want, no matter what; and if so, then what I said above isn't wrong. In my opinion we can't let everybody do whatever they want as consenting adults or we'll have folks killing and eating each other.

151 posted on 07/19/2003 4:20:50 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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To: scripter
we can't let everybody do whatever they want as consenting adults or we'll have folks killing and eating each other.

Maybe it's the mood I'm in ----but if it was consensual ----why not just let them agree to be killed and eaten? Do we as a society really need to keep this type around? If we need to lock them up to prevent them from going through with this, why do taxpayers need to pay their costs?

152 posted on 07/19/2003 4:29:14 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Do we as a society really need to keep this type around? If we need to lock them up to prevent them from going through with this, why do taxpayers need to pay their costs?

That's a very good point. My first thought is compassion, which is something I haven't had much of until recently. There was a time in my life when, well, let's just say there was a time in my life when many people showed me true compassion. I was very grateful they told me things I didn't really want to hear but needed to hear.

I could have been a burden on society or I could have been a productive member of society and these folks helped me become the latter. Some folks might say that's debateable!

153 posted on 07/19/2003 4:55:48 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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To: scripter
On my more compassionate days, I'd say bring back the mental institutions and lock this type up ----but since it happened in Germany, it's not our problem anyhow. How can government stop this without spying on all the chat rooms and wiretapping all the phones? There still is supposed to be freedom of speech ----what if two people were joking around and some agent showed up to arrest them? On this I could almost be libertarian and just say let consenting adult gays murder each other.
154 posted on 07/19/2003 5:07:20 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ

No one buys into your hyperbole statement. Must we legalize rape since we can't place cameras in every room? Must we be forced to permit pay-per-view human buffets since we can't stop every cannibalistic act?

Laws against cannibalism offend the dignity of cannibals, or so we are being told. Isn't the Libertarian position that consent alone is the arbiter of right and wrong?

155 posted on 07/19/2003 7:40:18 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Hey, gay cannibalism is just a life-style choice. Who are we to pass (burp) judgment?

Hillary's looking at gay cannibals in the military for her '08 presidential run and San Francisco is planning their first Gay Cannibal Olympics in the tenderloin...no irony there, eh?

The Gay Cannibal Liberation t-shirts are puce with a crossed knife and fork.

Gay Cannibals...The Last Purse-e-cuted Minority!!!
(Pass the Pepto, Lance)

156 posted on 07/19/2003 7:53:08 PM PDT by Deb (Do these jeans make my tag look big?)
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To: FITZ
I'm of the opinion that homosexuality is a symptom of a mental defect. Since thousands have left the lifestyle that reinforces my opinion along with quite a few links on the issue and a number of odd behaviors by some gays. Such as? Let alone using body parts inappropriately, some gays tried to get the HIV bug and others tried to give it to them. There's a film on the issue.

As far as how can government stop gays killing and eating each other, I'd say the same way they enforce all the other laws. That is, regular investigative techniques. Letting adult gays murder each other is a little too much freedom for me. Perhaps that's my compassion getting in the way. This reminds me of the last few verses of Romans chapter 1 from The Message:

Sexually confused, they abused and defiled one another, women with women, men with men--all lust, no love. And then they paid for it, oh, how they paid for it--emptied of God and love, godless and loveless wretches.

Since they didn't bother to acknowledge God, God quit bothering them and let them run loose. And then all hell broke loose: rampant evil, grabbing and grasping, vicious backstabbing.

They made life hell on earth with their envy, wanton killing, bickering, and cheating. Look at them: mean-spirited, venomous, fork-tongued God-bashers. Bullies, swaggerers, insufferable windbags!

They keep inventing new ways of wrecking lives. They ditch their parents when they get in the way. Stupid, slimy, cruel, cold-blooded. And it's not as if they don't know better. They know perfectly well they're spitting in God's face. And they don't care--worse, they hand out prizes to those who do the worst things best!


157 posted on 07/19/2003 9:29:09 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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To: Coleus
This is so sick.

Yeppers, paraphilic disorder manifests in many ways. So far as the APA and brainwashed Liberaltarians are concerned, as long as behaviors are consensual then society shouldn’t care.

158 posted on 07/19/2003 10:09:05 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: breakem
Only CJ and his ilk think necrophilia is consenting sex.

NO…Only homosexual propagandists think personal property needs to prove consent. Liberaltarian hypocrite alert!

BS-ing on the sodomy threads again eh?

159 posted on 07/19/2003 10:16:48 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: knak
Hopefully they will run out of food!
160 posted on 07/19/2003 10:22:15 PM PDT by RIGHT IN SEATTLE (SIGN)
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