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Internet gay cannibalism net widens
expatica ^ | 7/17/03

Posted on 07/17/2003 10:46:08 PM PDT by knak

KASSEL - Prosecutors Thursday said they have filed a murder indictment against one of two gay men who met in an Internet chat room, where it allegedly was agreed that one of them would kill and devour the other.

And in a stunning new development, prosecutors in Kassel said they are broadening the investigation to include some 430 other persons believed to have been involved in the Internet gay cannibalism chat room that led to the death of a 42-year-old man in March 2001.

Prosecutors are convinced that the victim, a computer analyst from Berlin, agreed to be killed and eaten. His dismembered and partially devoured remains were found at the residence of a 41-year-old suspect.

That suspect, identified only as Armin M., has been charged with murder. Cannibalism per se is not a crime under German law.

Despite the fact that the victim willingly agreed to be killed, prosecutors said the case could not be considered "assisted suicide". So they opted for a murder indictment.

Prosecutors Thursday said the suspect has admitted videotaping himself killing the Berlin man, a computer chip developer at Siemens corporation, identified only as Bernd Juergen B.

On the morning of his disappearance from Berlin on March 9, 2001, Bernd Juergen B. completed his will. He left the bulk of his estate including a lavish penthouse apartment and EUR 50,000 worth of computer equipment to his live-in partner, a man named Rene.

According to police, the victim had several thousand dollars in cash and his passport when he travelled 300 kilometres from Berlin to the alleged murderer's house near Kassel.

Searching the rambling, 30-room, half-timbered house in the village of Rotenburg, investigators unearthed skeletal remains, some of them packaged in a freezer, along with videotapes and CD-ROMs on which the suspect allegedly recorded his actions.

Authorities were tipped off to the crime by internet surfers who stumbled upon chat room requests allegedly posted by the suspect in which he was looking for people willing to be slaughtered and eaten by him.


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To: Cultural Jihad
Rave on.
You make my point with your every post.
101 posted on 07/19/2003 10:28:36 AM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but principles keep getting in me way.)
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To: breakem; Kevin Curry
Who said the dead corpse hadn't given full consent before he died? The question is, who's gonna stop such consensual evil in a Me-ocracy?
102 posted on 07/19/2003 10:32:11 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: breakem
Only CJ and his ilk think necrophilia is consenting sex. What a wonderful world.

Necrophilia is another issue--one that libertarians can form no "principled" objection to, being the moral relativists they are.

This case is about sodomy and consensual cannibalism (the first course was a joint dining experience). Neither you nor tpaine has the courage to address the issue according to libertarian "principles." That's likely because you realize your libertarian "princples" will lead you to a result in this case that you really don't want to acknowledge.

So you're reduced to playing Clintonian word games with "consent." Every rational human being sees through your sophomoric hare-brained sophistry and laughs at you.

103 posted on 07/19/2003 10:41:43 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Kevin Curry
Don't have interest in addressing the issue or engaging you. You rant and repeat all over the place and then ask for intelligent dixcourse. No thanx!

I responded to CJ based upon his comments. You effort to tunr it into a attack and calling moral people morally relative is transparent and one of the reasons people don't care to have a dialogue with you. You've ignored the answer for 3 or 4 years so play with yourself.

104 posted on 07/19/2003 11:26:10 AM PDT by breakem
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To: Cultural Jihad
I guess when someone says yes it's yes forever huh CJ. Only you could read the mind of the dead. Bye, I've had my dose of your daily ignorance. You and Kevin can leave your body's to each other in your wills.
105 posted on 07/19/2003 11:27:57 AM PDT by breakem
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To: tpaine
You must have 'special' protection to get away with your flaunting of the posting guidelines. How do you manage? Are you related to some FR big shot? The crazy uncle? How does CJ tie in, as a crazy ideologue?

I think they keep them around for the humor value. If they had real stroke with the mods, they would actually respond when CJ cries to them every other post.

106 posted on 07/19/2003 11:37:33 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: lawdude
Jeffrey Dahmer has a "date" over for dinner.

The date says, "Jeffrey, I don't like your neighbors."

Jeffrey says, "Then push them aside and eat your vegetables."

BA-DOMP-BOMP!

107 posted on 07/19/2003 11:39:05 AM PDT by SerpentDove (Each post focus-group tested for maximum wallop.)
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To: tpaine
If his silly behavior continues, I may have to invoke the new 'no ping' rule.

Is there a thread that this was mentioned on? A certain someone the other day decided he was not man enough to hang with jmc and invoked that rule on me.

108 posted on 07/19/2003 11:40:25 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: breakem
You and Kevin can leave your body's to each other in your wills.

You're probably gonna get reported to the mods for that one. :-)

109 posted on 07/19/2003 11:42:59 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: breakem
Don't have interest in addressing the issue or engaging you

Correction: you have neither the intelligence nor the courage. The amoral loonytarian fluff-world you inhabit in your mind has given you no challenge sufficient to help you develop the strength to stand and debate. It has crippled your reasoning ability, left you hamstrung and unable to engage in rational discourse.

You deserve to rot in the libertarian pro-porn, pro-dope, pro-sodomy hellhole you desperately pine for. The rest of us don't.

110 posted on 07/19/2003 11:45:18 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Cathryn Crawford; Lazamataz
Good Kevin Curry anti-libertarian ranting going on over here.
111 posted on 07/19/2003 11:48:27 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: jmc813
CJ regularly flags the moderators. They ignore most of it because of the honesty of the poster.
112 posted on 07/19/2003 11:50:58 AM PDT by breakem
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To: weegee
Following the man's arrival at Armin's house, they mutually agreed to amputate his penis, which was flambéed and fried and then consumed by both Armin and his victim.


Thanks for following up with your find. I remember in the original story how it was noted how they agreed on the "first course" and ensured that the "victim" would be alive long enough to "enjoy" it. Unbelievable. Gack!

Oh - and all on video - check your local Blockbuster soon! "Eating Bernd's ..."

113 posted on 07/19/2003 11:52:41 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Support Our Troops!)
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To: Kevin Curry
In all seriousness Kevin, I read your home page, and must say it is a very well written piece and believe it or not I agree with it. Did you write it?
114 posted on 07/19/2003 12:00:55 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: Kevin Curry; Lazamataz; jmc813
You deserve to rot in the libertarian pro-porn, pro-dope, pro-sodomy hellhole you desperately pine for. The rest of us don't.

Wow. That's right. Libertarians are also why the steering wheel gets really hot and burns your hands during the summer. Oh, and all impotence is caused by libertarians, too.

115 posted on 07/19/2003 12:10:15 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Why don't you think I'm a neocon?)
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To: Cathryn Crawford; jmc813; gcruse; tpaine; sinkspur
Kevin calls others ignorant and unable to make a point, but he continuously makes errors of logic.

He claims libertarians are pro-sodomy, dope etc. Kevin has been either intentionally or intellectually unable to understand the following, although it has been explained to him on many occasions.

People who believe something is immoral but don't think others should go to jail for it are not pro that behavior. They just don't believe it should be a criminal offense.

In order for CJ and Kevin to be intellectual consistent and honest they would have to call for making taking God's name, taking false Gods, and coveting illegal. Those are clearly immoral and if they don't put people in jail for it, then they must think it's okay, following their logic.

They cannot apply the logic of their attack to their own moral position. It is their persistence at being deaf to the explanation that allows them to continue the ranting and name-calling. That and the mercy of the moderators.

CJ flags the moderator everytime someone makes what may be interpreted as a liberal comment to him, but he uses contrived name-calling to smear those with whom he disagrees. And you can see what Kevin does in his last post to me.

116 posted on 07/19/2003 12:40:26 PM PDT by breakem
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To: breakem; Kevin Curry
I think we should give Kevie a break. Of course he uses the same script on every liberty thread, it's all he knows, and memorization can only take one so far. He understudied MHGinTN, I think. Imagine Paul Williams defending against the Lakers: painful to watch and embarrassing to be in the audience.
117 posted on 07/19/2003 12:52:55 PM PDT by gcruse (There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: gcruse
I think we should give Kevie a break. Of course he uses the same script on every liberty thread

Awww, Kevin ain't as bad as some people. He opposes the PATRIOT Act at least.

118 posted on 07/19/2003 1:12:06 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: gcruse
I guess every two or three months I get tired of it and have to respond. Patience and understanding for the less gifted.
119 posted on 07/19/2003 1:28:26 PM PDT by breakem
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To: jmc813
Even a broken clock is right...............
120 posted on 07/19/2003 1:28:54 PM PDT by breakem
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