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To: metesky
But then smugness is you in a nutshell.

I do have a message that has the ability to stop this but smokers don't want to here they are part of the problem. Again, if they became as considerate as the average pipe and cigar smoker these bans would be much harder to push. Its their only hope. But, so far based on the reaction I get smokers are too self absorbed in their habit to realize that their smoke is really offensive and they will continue to be their own worst enemy.

26 posted on 06/04/2003 6:04:39 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: VRWC_minion
Disingenuousness again rears it's ugly head.

Smokers and non-smokers have been separated for years in bars and taverns, minion. It is the non-smokers who come into smoking sections and then complain about the smoke. I know and you know it.

This courtesy argument started long ago and it seems to be a one-way street as far as non-smokers go.

28 posted on 06/04/2003 6:09:42 AM PDT by metesky (Deathly afraid in Sheep (bleep) Falls, Maine)
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To: VRWC_minion
And you are your worst enemy, minion, but you don't want to see it.
You hate tobacco smoke more than you love freedom.
33 posted on 06/04/2003 6:17:08 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: VRWC_minion
I won't mince words today. STUFF IT UP YOUR SELF-RIGHTEOUS BUTT.
37 posted on 06/04/2003 6:30:42 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Paper or plastic? That is the question.)
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To: VRWC_minion
But, so far based on the reaction I get smokers are too self absorbed in their habit to realize that their smoke is really offensive and they will continue to be their own worst enemy.

YOU are TOO SELF ABSORBED IN YOUR OWN CRITICISM. YOUR a legend in your OWN mind!

Your rude, you smell funny, you hide behind your monitor like a little ball less mouse.  I have NO respect for you and your ilk.  If I lived with you for only ONE week, I would be in jail for MURDER.  You are the most disgusting creature I have had the DIS pleasure of meeting in Free Republic.

Why can't you live and let live!  You better untighten that azz of yours.  You might live longer.

I wished you lived in Perfect.  But then, you wouldn't have anything to bitch about, would you?

59 posted on 06/04/2003 7:49:40 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: VRWC_minion; All
Perhaps the government can outlaw offensive omissions from self-absorbed contentious people

I bet a majority on FR would vote to silence the dangerous fumes spewing out of your mouth.

Anyone else think so?

Let's vote. If the majority on FR is offended by your noxious emanations, let's say that you have to pay Jim Robinson a fine of $25 every time you are caught spewing offensive smoke and mirrors on FR.

Got game?
93 posted on 06/04/2003 8:44:20 AM PDT by Trace21230 (Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
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To: VRWC_minion
"I do have a message that has the ability to stop this but smokers don't want to here they are part of the problem. Again, if they became as considerate as the average pipe and cigar smoker these bans would be much harder to push. Its their only hope. But, so far based on the reaction I get smokers are too self absorbed in their habit to realize that their smoke is really offensive and they will continue to be their own worst enemy. "

I've heard this stated before here (maybe by you) but I've never met a smoker that was inconsiderate around non-smokers. Every smoker I've known is polite about not smoking next to anyone who requests they not do so unless they are in a smoking desgnated area and have no place else to go. In a bar it's different. You expect a bar to be smokey. That's how it's always been. If you are so health conscience about the smoke then think about what all that alcohol will do to your liver. If you aren't going there to drink either then you are useless to their business and there is no reason for the owners to care about what you think.
107 posted on 06/04/2003 8:58:05 AM PDT by honeygrl
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To: VRWC_minion
>> their smoke is really offensive <<

You do not have the right to not be offended. If the smoke offends you, leave.
321 posted on 06/04/2003 1:05:20 PM PDT by appalachian_dweller (On a long enough time scale, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.)
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To: VRWC_minion
But, so far based on the reaction I get smokers are too self absorbed in their habit to realize that their smoke is really offensive and they will continue to be their own worst enemy.

Actually I have to agree with you but for the following reasons:

1. First of all you nazis told us if we are going to smoke on your planes then we had to do it in the back. Reluctantly we obliged you because after all, it was all about you.

2. Then, you nazis decided that having us in the back of the plane wasn't good enough so you banned us from the plane completely. Reluctantly we obliged you because after all, it was all about you.

3. Then you nazi's decided you didn't like us smoking in our offices so you relegated us to designated smoking areas in the work place. Reluctantly we obliged you because after all, it was all about you.

4. Then you nazis decided that our own smoking area still wasn't good enough for you so you closed down our smoking area and told us to take it outside. Reluctantly we obliged because after all, it was all about you.

5. Then you nazis told us folks who couldn't smoke on the plane any more that we could no longer smoke in any of the terminals and had to go outside. Reluctantly we obliged because again, it was all about you.

We have succumbed to your every demand and yet you have continued to demand more and more and more from us! And yet you have the audacity to call us rude when we have accomodated you bastards at each and every turn!

Well I've got news for you my friend, I don't care if I offend you and your bretheren any more, in fact I am now going out of my way to offend anyone who is stupid enough to confront me with their non-smoking attitudes. We/I tried to get along with you zealots but you just wouldn't give up would you? Well, you are certainly pissing off a lot of people these days so you had better watch which bars you choose to spout your anti-smoking rhetoric in. But then again, I certainly don't expect to see you in the places I hang out in but I would certainly love to! I would come pretty damn close to ignoring my tag line......

453 posted on 06/04/2003 6:59:51 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Over 25 years of dealing with stupid people and I still don't have the right to just shoot them.....)
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