[fieldmarshaldj]

"On this point, Horowitz is dead wrong – there is not a scintilla of proof that homosexuality is a genetic or biological trait."

Uh, I wouldn't want to bet the house on that one. I'm afraid that when we make the argument against special rights for gays, we fail to do so in a thoroughly intellectually honest way. I do sincerely believe it to be a genetic abnormality, which probably accounts for the bulk of cases, and the other is a dysfunctional environment. The latter might be able to be corrected, but the former most certainly can't. I'm rather dubious of when I hear about "former homosexuals", which probably means they were either bisexual to begin with or are now simply living in denial (think fmr. Congressman Mike Huffington). In the case of genetic homosexuals, you can no more change your sexuality than someone mentally retarded can pretend to be a member of MENSA.

[mysterio]

As a scientist familiar with genetics, I think it may be one of several things. Perhaps a hormonal abnormality in which the child is exposed to elevated amounts of the opposite sex hormone during brain development could also be a cause. New studies show many gay males have a straight older brother, revealing the possibility that the first son born to a woman may affect her hormone levels in some cases.

I find it difficult to believe that anyone could "choose" a sexual orientation. As a straight male, I find it impossible to imagine being able to make a choice of that manner, as I have been attracted to females as long as I can remember. I certainly did not make a choice to be that way. I was just born that way. I find it unlikely that gays are any different.

[scripter]

Nobody has found any genetic or biological link to homosexuality:

• Finding a Needle in the Ocean 
• Homosexual Researchers Debunk 'Born Gay' Urban Leg  FR 
• Is Homosexuality Genetic? 
• Is Sexual Orientation Fixed at Birth? 
• Is There a "Gay Gene"? 
• The Biological Research on Homosexuality 
• The Fading "Gay Gene" 
• The Gay Gene: Going, Going...Gone 
• The Innate-Immutable Argument Finds No Basis in Sc 
• What Causes Homosexual Desire and Can It Be Change 
• What Is "A Homosexual" 

[Remedy]

YOU have been propaGAYgandized.

1. Homosexual Propaganda Campaign Based On Hitler's 'Big Lie' Technique
2. Gay Rights Strategies Involve Conscious Deception And Wholesale Manipulation of Public Opinion
3. New Book Guides Journalists in Reporting of Homosexual Issues
4. Selling Homosexuality To America
5. Homosexual minority dominates mainstream America

[ethical]

Where is your proof? You have NONE, nada. There is, as the man said, no proof whatsoever.

[lavaroise]

I do sincerely believe it to be a genetic abnormality

In behavior, genetics do not matter, sin does. Many gays out there "sin" and have fantasies about women but won't admit it, let us face it. I do not believe a gay person is so "piously" gay that they cannot fathom another lifestyle. Believing otherwise this would be worse hypocritical crap.... like believing a priest never regrets tenderness with a woman... bull crap.

[Woahhs]

Congratulations! You're a success!

Your overall opinion, undilluted by any kind of specific detail, is exactly what the leftist media culture was going for.

[Always Right]

I do sincerely believe it to be a genetic abnormality, which probably accounts for the bulk of cases, and the other is a dysfunctional environment.

Studies in twin data suggest the opposite. There seems to be a genetic component, but non-genetic influences and choice play seem to play a larger role. Sexuality is mostly mental and the power of positive reinforcement of sexuality to alter someone's behavior can not be understated.

[bimbo]

In the case of genetic homosexuals …

You are now speaking in absolutes, just as those who deny the premise do. Gays, while strong proponents of the “gay gene” are the last people who actually want the gene identified – you know … the abortion “choice” puts them at risk.

[steve-b]

Another, more fundamental, reason not to bet the house on that one is that it's completely irrelevant. If it's OK to discriminate against "chosen" behavior, then it's OK to be an anti-Semite (they could always convert, after all).

[lodwick]

Excellent observations with which I concur.

[pyx]

I'm afraid that when we make the argument against special rights for gays, we fail to do so in a thoroughly intellectually honest way.

Then enlighten me; make the argument for special rights for a man who defines his raison d'etre, his entire existance by his preference to jam his penis into another man's anus or vice versa ? (Homosexualists define themselves by their sexual deviancy and politics and nothing, absolutely NOTHING else.)

I do sincerely believe it to be a genetic abnormality, which probably accounts for the bulk of cases, and the other is a dysfunctional environment.

That's fine. You can believe anything you like. Some believe the moon is made out of green cheese. You've offered absolutely NOTHING to substantiate your OPINION.

The latter might be able to be corrected, but the former most certainly can't. I'm rather dubious of when I hear about "former homosexuals", which probably means they were either bisexual to begin with or are now simply living in denial (think fmr. Congressman Mike Huffington).

So, you define what a former homosexualist is and then use that definition to substantiate your own claims. Again, its your OPINION and there is NOTHING in your statement to substantiate your claims.

In the case of genetic homosexuals, you can no more change your sexuality than someone mentally retarded can pretend to be a member of MENSA.

Introducing a NEW and IMPROVED (is it lemon scented?) term to define homosexualism (genetic homosexuality) is a sham. Invoking the name of a bunch of phoney navel gazers who claim to be superior to others (I turned down their invitation to join after solving serveral of their childish puzzles) to bolster your point, is lame. The Cult Of The Anus along with LEFTIST sympathizers have political aspirations. Unable to reproduce, they seek to recuit. That is the only way homosexualists can survive.

[cartoonistx]

"I do sincerely believe it to be a genetic abnormality, which probably accounts for the bulk of cases, and the other is a dysfunctional environment.

And I believe the exact opposite. Any well-learned and longstanding habit or training can FEEL like it's inbreading. Try to "unlearn" the way you tie your shoes. You will find it difficult to do any other way than the way you were taught at an early age. Does this mean shoe-tieing is genetic? Sexual preferance does not exist inately, I believe, but is ALWAYS a modeled or taught behavior, albeit from such an emotional, pre-verbal stage of development that many believe they were born with it. All of our lives we are re-inforced with examples of what society finds acceptable and as these re-inforcements change to include overt homosexual situations more people will believe they were "born gay".

[cinFLA]

I do sincerely believe it to be a genetic abnormality, which probably accounts for the bulk of cases,

What do you base your belief on since there is a multitude of research that shows sexual preferences are formed during early childhood.

Would you also believe that the bulk of those that are into beastiality are genetically inclined?