[Dan from Michigan]

Click on URL for the sources.

I needed to post this since amazingly, some people even here are actually defending the ban.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Bang!

[Drew68]

Bump to read later

[nightdriver]

People should be able to "keep and bear" the same arms our "authorities" use against us, including those automatic weapons we saw used in the Elian Gonzales kidnaping and the tank cannon used against Mt. Carmel in Waco.

[gcruse]

The prohibition is no more rational than a prohibition on beer based on legislative "findings" that beer grows on trees, that a single sip always causes instant physical addiction,

And yet when a libertarian makes the same statement about marijuana,
a hefty portion of the gun crowd gets 'up in arms.'  The refusal to
recognize that gungrabbers and drugwarriors are two sides of one antiliberty
coin leads to a split in what should be solid support for the freedom of both.

[supercat]

A folding stock makes a gun shorter and easier to carry, thus making it useful to hunters.

Non-NFA firearms with folding stocks (as distinct from folding actions) are a fair bit larger than smallish rifles/shotguns without them. To avoid NFA classification, a firearm with a folding stock must have a minimum collapsed length of 26"; since the sights, grip, and trigger are usually located for maximum utility with the stock unfolded (which, to be meaningful, must add at least 6" to the gun) this means such firearms generally have a useful length of 32" or more. While a rifle that's e.g. 34" collapsable to 26" has some advantages over one that's simply 26" long, concealability is hardly one of them.

[Drammach]

bflr

[_Jim]

Because of an injury to her wrist, she was unable to use a handgun.

WAIT Wait wait -

- she *only* had one arm too?

[_Jim]

30-round ammunition magazine

A 30-round clip?

THAT is a little excessive for defense of property in a city (unless, of course, you're protecting your storefront property somewhere in LA during a riot) ...

[_Jim]

Baaaaad article. Quite literally falls apart in several places in the last several paragraphs IMNSHO ...

[Travis McGee]

[tpaine]

I needed to post this since amazingly, some people even here are actually defending the ban.
-DfM-

Far more than 'some'. I would estimate that we may be nearing the 50/50 mark at FR.
The governments position on such prohibitive 'regulating' of the RKBA's is virtually unapposed by the GOP or the current administration, and those who support them here.
Ashcroft's giving lip service to an 'individual right', as if there were any question on the matter, means nothing. The right will be 'regulated' into meaningless rhetoric, -- slowly..

[2nd_Amendment_Defender]

This isn't an assault weapon, it's my homeland defense rifle.

[Badray]

Dan, great post. Thanks.

[flashbunny]

A visual aid:

[spodefly]

BTTT

[Bryan24]

M-60 Machine Gun = Assault weapon

M249 SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon) = Assault weapon

M-16 = Personal Rifle

Unless you are a member of the uniformed armed services, you should not be allowed to have possesion of the top 2. They are not precision weapons but weapons used to kill by utilizing overwhelming fire. That is why we have armies.

Any citizen of the United States should be allowed to own the bottom weapon (subject to some common sense restrictions, convicted violent felons, etc...). It is a precision weapon, even with full auto capabilities available.

Just my personal opinion.

[vannrox]

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Don't be too sure that Bush will extend the assault gun ban. All this is spin. It is being treated as if it is a foregone conclusion. I think that everyone here might be pleasantly surprised...

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[gc4nra]

Thanks Dan, good job, as usual!

[Gritty]

BTTT