[tpaine]

I needed to post this since amazingly, some people even here are actually defending the ban.
-DfM-

Far more than 'some'. I would estimate that we may be nearing the 50/50 mark at FR.
The governments position on such prohibitive 'regulating' of the RKBA's is virtually unapposed by the GOP or the current administration, and those who support them here.
Ashcroft's giving lip service to an 'individual right', as if there were any question on the matter, means nothing. The right will be 'regulated' into meaningless rhetoric, -- slowly..

[ZULU]

There is no litmus test for participating in this forum. Unfortunately, I believe there are any number of "stealth" liberals repsonding to posts here, particularly on guns, Muslims and illegal aliens.

The current President said, when he ran for office that he would impose no new gun laws nor revoke any gun laws currently in existence - hence his indication he would sign the unconstitutional assault rifle ban. Some of his staff -
Ashcroft and Rice come to mind - support the Second Amendment. Others of his staff - the notoroious Chrisse Whitman for example - are anti-gun. Bush is NOT a conservative, regardless of the fine job he did in Iraq. He is a genuine Republican moderate. He merely APPEARS to be conservative to some people as a consequence of the far left liberals we have had in office in the past, and due to the radical lefts hatred for anyone who is not a far leftist.

The antigunners in America are determined to legislate the Secind Amendment into meaninglessness. They are trying to do this on several levels.
1) By enacting legisaltion restricting or banning young people from using or even being exposed to a positive image of firearms, they are brain wasing the next generation into anti-gunners.

2) As more and more of the Country becomes developed and the animal rights fanatics become more and more virulent, the sport of hunting is losing it adherents.

3) By revising history into an attack on dead white European males, they are attcking renactment groups who use firearms like the NSSA and Brigade of the American Revolution.

4) By continually harping on the deaths of "children" and other fraudulent data, they continually link in the public mind firarms and crime.

5) The mass media, overwhelming anti-Constitutionalist, will publish ANY gun fatality regardless of what remote part of the Country it occurs in, while NEVER publicizing the effective use of firearms to deter a criminal.

We have a hard job ahead of us, but if they take away the Second Amendment like this, they can do in the other Amendments just as easily.