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California: Temporarily raise taxes, economists say
The San Jose Mercury News ^ | Fri, Feb. 07, 2003 | Jennifer Coleman Associated Press

Posted on 02/07/2003 11:21:36 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I love how all these economist are from California universities, which depend heavily on taxpayer support. Very objective, not.
21 posted on 02/07/2003 12:04:52 PM PST by Russell Scott
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Cutting that much state spending [$34.6 billion] would be "a major drag on the economy," Janet Yellen, another Berkeley economics professor, added in a conference call with reporters."

Every time I hear a liberal talk about the state budget I keep wondering whether their psychotherapists have been maintaining their valium dosages too high. Cutting spending hurts the economy? Folderol. Taxes hurt the economy. Forcing people off the dole and requiring them to provide for themselves helps the economy.

Maybe this esteemed economist is worried about losing her own job due to UC budget cuts. Well, then, yes, she is right -- budget cuts will hurt her personal economy. Tough sh-t.

And, lest anyone forget why California is in such trouble, I repost here the budget facts about the state starting with four years ago, when Gray Davis and the Democrat-dominated legislature assumed control.

The facts about California’s budget problem:

- Budget when Gray Davis took office in 1999: $53 billion

- Budget needs today (FY 2003): $100 billion

- Tax receipts, FY 2003 (forecast): $70 billion

- Growth during Davis’ term: 100% or 20% per year. Note that upon Davis’ election, the Democrats finally had control of all three branches of California’s government for the first time in 40 years.

- Had the budget grown consistent with inflation and the increase in population, the budget would be $65 billion (21% increase over four years, or 5% per year) and California would have a surplus of $5 billion.

California Democrats have spent like drunken whores who just chanced upon a pirate treasure. And, now that they are destitute, let them wallow in their own profligacy.

22 posted on 02/07/2003 12:06:27 PM PST by tom h
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To: tom h
Very nice of you to add that to the thread!

Thank you!

23 posted on 02/07/2003 12:09:42 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Impeach Gray Davis! (Disregard for now - he is still useful;) OK Recall him!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
...Cutting that much from state spending would be ``a major drag on the economy,'' Janet Yellen, another Berkeley economics professor, added in a conference call with reporters...

Why in the world would any unbiased reporters seriously consult Berkley on Economics? Its like consulting the administrators of Chernobyl on proper Nuclear Regulations. She honestly believes that the economy is strongly based on Sacramento having increased spending 36% with my money? Perhaps the helpful reporters just edited her quote because it had originally been (Dude, it'd totally be) "a major drag on the economy" between taking hits off the faculty bong.
24 posted on 02/07/2003 12:10:12 PM PST by PeoplesRep_of_LA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
California's budget deficit is too large to be closed with spending cuts alone, and lawmakers should consider a temporary tax increase, 14 economists said in a letter to legislative leaders.

Did the letter to legislative leaders include 14 personal checks amounting to the yearly salary of these 14 economists??? Made payable to the Franchise Tax Board?

25 posted on 02/07/2003 12:13:58 PM PST by Frohickey
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To: tom h
Good response!
26 posted on 02/07/2003 12:18:06 PM PST by NEWwoman
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
14 economists

Translation: "a small group of Berkley socialists and associates whose opionion we present as news"

27 posted on 02/07/2003 12:44:37 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I defy the "economist" to document one "temporary" tax that ever went away.
28 posted on 02/07/2003 12:51:40 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Jack Black
"Cutting that much from state spending would be ``a major drag on the economy,"

I see. If California can't spend it, it's a "major drag on the economy".

But if California takes the money from the taxpayer, isn't it a "major drag on the economy" if the taxpayer has no money to spend?

Talk about how all money belongs to the government except what the government "gives" you!

29 posted on 02/07/2003 1:25:01 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Maybe I can temporarily sleep with his daughter.

(steely)

30 posted on 02/07/2003 1:40:50 PM PST by Steely Tom
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To: Gophack
And anyway, since when has ANYONE heard of a TEMPORARY tax increase?????????????????????????????

Never. Recall Davis. Now.

31 posted on 02/07/2003 1:59:59 PM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: Russell Scott
Recall Davis? Why? You have to make sure he's replaced with another Democrat, unless you people want the Republicans to be blamed for the coming disaster. It's not like the disaster can be avoided now. Keep the funny man out there in front of the steam roller, okay?
32 posted on 02/07/2003 2:02:52 PM PST by Ten Megaton Solution
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
>Auerbach and Yellen said lawmakers should consider raising income taxes on the wealthiest Californians, a proposal that is part of Davis' plan, or temporarily increasing sales taxes.

The problem is that tax collections already are overly dependent on the wealthiest Americans. It is those people who are rolling over.

33 posted on 02/07/2003 2:20:52 PM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: Ten Megaton Solution
...It's not like the disaster can be avoided now...

It is already a disaster. I think keeping a Rat in office will just make it more of one. I have to think that just about any non-rhino pubbie would help California turn it around. If you don't, then why the loyalty to the Pubbies?

34 posted on 02/07/2003 5:02:17 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Here in Minnesota the lefty senate could not agree on cuts. So Pawlenty the Republican Gov. had too do it. And he did big time. They were to chicken so they put it to the Gov. The papers will have a field day with the cuts. he has already had protestors.
35 posted on 02/07/2003 5:09:56 PM PST by Brimack34 (Mn. does not have a fare and balanced newspaper.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Not a big surprise is it!

I guess these brilliant UC Berkely and other Marxist economists were having difficulty with the following math:

1) Spending increase required to maintain the status quo over four years given inflation and population increase (another story in and of itself): 21%

2) Actual increase in tax revenues over the same period: 28%

3) Actual increase in State expenditures over the same period: 36%

4) Reduce increases in projected State expenditures to 28% overall, and the projected spending deficit vanishes.

Source: State Controller candidate Tom McKlintock

I guess old Tom is not in the same league as these economists. </ dripping sarcasm>

36 posted on 02/07/2003 7:06:49 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
guess old Tom is not in the same league as these economists.

I think he is in a higher league!

37 posted on 02/07/2003 10:07:39 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Impeach Gray Davis! (Disregard for now - he is still useful;) OK Recall him!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
lawmakers should consider a temporary tax increase

"temporary".... HAR HAR HAR !!!

Where do the scumbag Democrats come up with these unprincipled and corrupt "economists" who, most likely for a price, give them cover for their agenda of more and more confiscation from traditional, working American families so that they may continue to buy the votes of the parasites?

Oh yeah.... they find them at universities.

38 posted on 02/07/2003 11:36:49 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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