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1 posted on 01/20/2003 7:09:41 AM PST by John Jorsett
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
ping
2 posted on 01/20/2003 7:10:16 AM PST by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
That's what happened in Argentina. The central gov't. subsidized the province's deficits and went broke.
3 posted on 01/20/2003 7:13:15 AM PST by metacognative
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The Democrats are running their mouths about the federal budget being unbalanced and then stick their hands out to Washington for money. If they raise their state and local taxes any more they're going to lose more elections, so now their only source of more money is the feds, who can run a deficit that the state/locals can't. Screw them.
4 posted on 01/20/2003 7:16:00 AM PST by John Jorsett
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They think the budget morass was created by years of profligate Democratic spending for which the governor's response is to raise taxes.

Tell me about it.

We've got the same thing on a smaller scale with Spendenning in Maryland.

The nerve of these leftists is earth shattering.

5 posted on 01/20/2003 7:16:26 AM PST by evad
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To: John Jorsett
Davis joined Rep. Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco, the new House Democratic leader, in a telephone news conference in which they accused the Bush administration of ignoring the economic devastation that most states, especially California, are facing.

Might this article be referring to . . .


6 posted on 01/20/2003 7:22:25 AM PST by geedee
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To: John Jorsett
The only legitimate gripe in the whole article was related to the costs of dealing with illegal immigrants. The federal government is responsible for controlling the border. California is stupid in that they throw out the welcome mat to illegals with a vast array of freebies (covered by exorbitant taxes on the proletariat of the People's Republik of Kalifornia).

Voters in California must like this form of government. They put the socialists back in office in November. Perhaps another 2 years of economic failure will catch their attention.

7 posted on 01/20/2003 7:28:26 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: John Jorsett
Davis also has complained fiercely about the federal government's refusal to fully fund the state's cost of incarcerating illegal immigrants accused or convicted of crimes, a $400 million annual drain on the state's treasury.

Well, he better just go complain to the guy in the mirror. He's one of those pandering to illegals; what else did he expect?

The federal government has no business bailing out CA. Let CA's own government deal with the mess that they caused. If they were to get one single penny of bail out money from the Feds, they would just be encouraged to spend billions more.

8 posted on 01/20/2003 7:31:46 AM PST by SCalGal (Tag line sale: 10% off)
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Wherever it comes from, it is taxpayer money. What the governors want is for the Federal Government to take the hit for the taxes. Let the Governors take the hit for raising their own taxes.

So9

10 posted on 01/20/2003 7:39:14 AM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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"Bush is responsible for the financial crisis in the states" is one of the rat's latest mantras.
11 posted on 01/20/2003 7:40:45 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ( ; -)
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Rep. Anna Eshoo, D-Atherton, said she thinks the only hope for states is for them to increase the volume on their plea for help.

"The states are in a world of hurt and county governments can't even come up for air," she said. "With pressure from Democratic and Republican governors, there may be a chance we can shame (Congress) into doing something."

Anna, Honey, THERE'S NO MORE MONEY! Your days of profligate spending and liberal idealism are about to crash upon the rocks of reality.

15 posted on 01/20/2003 7:48:03 AM PST by copycat (Arbeit macht frei.)
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$38 BILLION...HOW CAN A STATE GET THAT FAR OUT OF BALANCE?
22 posted on 01/20/2003 8:18:16 AM PST by Bill Davis FR
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"By some estimates, there is around $60 billion in losses to the states because of the economic situation and policies of the government," Pelosi said. "Our plan covers about half the losses. We are hopeful that Republicans will listen and remember that everyone is from a state."

Right! And federal taxes come from states too. So why is it any help to send taxes to Washington just so they can take their brokerage fee out of it and send part of them back? The states should stand on their own. It's a socialistic pie-in-the-sky idea that the federal government can bail out a state.

26 posted on 01/20/2003 8:39:00 AM PST by nightdriver
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The last thing Bush and Congress should do is to bail out California. What we have today is the result of Democrat spending and failed policies. Now, Democrats have to make the hard choices and suffer politically.

In no way should we subsidize Davis's past actions. There is great political advantage in letting California fix its own budget problem.

29 posted on 01/20/2003 8:47:39 AM PST by Dog Gone
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But Democrats don't have the votes to pass their proposal, even though some experts think the kind of aid they are seeking is just what the national economy needs.

"some experts" think it is what we need and it STILL does not pass? The gall of the Rebublicans amazes me.

33 posted on 01/20/2003 9:42:50 AM PST by On the Road to Serfdom
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To: John Jorsett; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; tubebender; NormsRevenge
Now we are seeing step number one in blaming the deficit on the evil and vile GW and the equally evil and vile republican controlled congress.

Articles like this one will start to dominate the left wing media now that they have informed the sheeple that there is a deficit. (Which was ignored until after Herr Davis, the great deficitor was re elected!)

Now GW, Congress and the rest of the country will blamed for what Herr Davis and his tax and spenders have done to Kalifornia.
38 posted on 01/20/2003 2:51:39 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Free Republic, the site supported by those who don't believe in free lunches! Are you a donor?)
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If Congress was to send money to California, that would include MY money, and I live on the east coast. Therefore, I would be subsidizing California's scumbag Democrats who have been spending (vote-buying) like drunken sailors on shore leave for the past five years.

I better not find out my Representative or Senators would agree to send my money to socialist, scumbag Democrat-controlled sewers. Let those stinking states go under for all I care.

40 posted on 01/20/2003 4:52:47 PM PST by Lancey Howard (Tag line (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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"The federal government just announced that this year's budget deficit is going to be $200 billion," Doolittle said. "We're not in a position to be giving aid to California. California is one-seventh of the national economy and, for the most part, it is going to have to stand on its own."

As usual, my congressman says what he means and means what he says, 100%! I've noticed he's buckled on you all paying for my prescriptions in a few more years when I reach Medicare eligibility. I wunder why???

Could it be SATAN? (or just politics as usual?)

47 posted on 01/21/2003 10:53:38 AM PST by SierraWasp (Visualize Whirled Peas!!!)
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bttt... ;)
48 posted on 10/09/2003 12:43:44 PM PDT by Brian S (Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem...RWReagan)
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