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Posted on 12/25/2002 7:17:34 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Bar patrons receive free cigarettes from tobacco companies

Wednesday December 25, 2002

By MELISSA MANSFIELD Associated Press Writer

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) Tobacco companies say they're just out pitching their products, handing out free packs of cigarettes to smokers in clubs and pubs around New York, trying to get them to switch brands.

Anti-smoking advocates, though, call the free smokes a way to get the casual smoker to puff regularly.

Though these giveaway programs started in primarily larger cities such as New York City, Los Angeles and Chicago, now patrons in smaller cities including Albany, Buffalo, Rochester and Huntington can find free packs of smokes in trendier bars.

``Selling something that is killing people is bad enough, but to give it away is kind of unbelievable,'' said Andria Bentley, a 19-year-old political science major at the University at Albany student who has seen the sampling at local bars.

At Lark Tavern, Camel representatives often appear on weekends or during live music sets, looking for smokers. They ask those with cigarettes if they would like two free packs, take their IDs to scan and return with the Camels most similar to their regular brand. Called the Camel Club, first launched in 1994, the program has been in Albany since the spring of 2001.

``We are trying to get these adult smokers to switch to our brands,'' said David Howard, spokesman for R.J. Reynolds.

Marcy Wamp, director of the New York State College Alliance Against Tobacco, disagreed. ``Their purpose is to get social, 'once in a while' smokers to become regular customers,'' she said.

The alliance is on many campuses statewide, including Cornell University, Hartwick College, Niagara University and the State University of New York at Brockport.

Wamp compared the free samples to those given out by cookie companies, except cookies are not ``highly addictive substances.''

``If someone does not want to participate, they don't have to,'' countered Howard. The representatives go to smoker-friendly places with age restrictions and only communicate with those who are already smokers, he said.

David Adelman, tobacco analyst for Morgan Stanley Dean Witter, agrees that the free samples encourages brand switching.

``If you aren't a smoker, I don't think it's going to affect you at all,'' he said.

``Everybody likes free stuff,'' said Lark Tavern owner G.E. Maugere. The nonsmoker did not contact the company to do promotions and doesn't believe the giveaways increase foot traffic because representatives show up when the bar is already busy.

``The Camel fairies are wonderful,'' said smoker Conner Bambrick, 24, who works for a nonprofit group. He has seen them in many settings, including concerts. He said he has often thought of quitting smoking, treating a pack of cigarettes as though it were his last, but then the ``fairies'' appear.

Bambrick has never chosen one bar over another for the chance of getting free cigarettes, though Howard said the program helps foot traffic in venues. Venues that sign up for the program receive ashtrays, napkins and other promotional merchandise, as well as money toward events such as bands.

Howard said the company does not sell the information scanned off the IDs or give it to any third parties but adds the names and addresses to product mailing lists.

Since the Master Settlement Agreement in 1998, which banned tobacco companies from targeting youth in advertising, other programs, like these giveaways, have sprung up around the country.

``College students are becoming increasingly aware of how they are targeted by the tobacco industry's advertising tactics,'' said Toni Gauthier, substance abuse specialist at Nazareth College in Rochester, where club promotions have also been taking place. Gauthier is an adviser for the college's Peer Heath Educators program.

``Peer educators like ours at Nazareth College are speaking up, speaking out and taking action,'' she said.

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On the Web:

www.nyscaat.org New York State College Alliance Against Tobacco

www.rjrt.com R.J. Reynolds tobacco company


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To: Texas Eagle
``Selling something that is killing people is bad enough, but to give it away is kind of unbelievable,'' said Andria Bentley, a 19-year-old call girl at the "Universal Blondies" escort service who was talking about losing her virginity
21 posted on 12/26/2002 1:12:34 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
``Selling something that is killing people is bad enough, but to give it away is kind of unbelievable,'' said Andria Bentley, a 19-year-old call girl at the "Universal Blondies" escort service who was talking about losing her virginity

Too funny. LOL!

22 posted on 12/26/2002 1:18:35 AM PST by SheLion
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To: SheLion
``The Camel fairies are wonderful,'' said smoker Conner Bambrick, 24, who works for a nonprofit group. He has seen them in many settings, including concerts. He said he has often thought of quitting smoking, treating a pack of cigarettes as though it were his last, but then the ``fairies'' appear.

This giveaway must be stopped, not just for the children, but for Conner, who's often "thought" of quitting, but keeps getting tricked by fairies.

23 posted on 12/26/2002 1:55:58 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge
Thay, those fairies are thneaky!
24 posted on 12/26/2002 2:20:48 AM PST by metesky
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To: Madame Dufarge
who works for a nonprofit group

Non profit my arse!

25 posted on 12/26/2002 2:22:07 AM PST by SheLion
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To: metesky
but then the ``fairies'' appear.

I hear they are getting their rights now. LOL! Can't discrimnate against FAIRIES! haha

26 posted on 12/26/2002 2:23:43 AM PST by SheLion
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To: qam1
Funny, She has big problems with other people enjoying a legal product but seems to have no problem breaking the law to enjoy an illegal product for herself.

Or she's simply heard about the give-aways and is lying. We all know there is nothing these types wouldn't resort to in order to gain power over others. Quite honestly, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to learn that Andria started a give-away program herself so she could condemn it and boost her own "heroine" status.

27 posted on 12/26/2002 3:25:06 AM PST by laredo44
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To: laredo44
A Google search links Andria's name with NYPIRG and Environmental Advocates of New York, but I can't seem to find her specifically when searching these sites.

Probably a gopher they sent out to make statements to the press.

28 posted on 12/26/2002 4:52:57 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Sub-Driver
... call the free smokes a way to get the casual smoker to puff regularly.

"Their purpose is to get social, ´once in a while´ smokers to become regular customers," she [Nancy Wamp] said.

Wamp compared the free samples to those given out by cookie companies, except cookies are not "highly addictive substances."

If cigarettes contain "highly addictive substances" how can there possibly even be such things as "casual smokers" and "social, once in a while smokers"?

These little control freaks get on my nerves!

29 posted on 12/26/2002 5:27:58 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver
These little control freaks get on my nerves!

Exactly! If tobacco and smoking is so darn dangerous, why don't they just BAN the darn stuff and save everyone all this grief.

We know the answer to that, though, don't we??


30 posted on 12/26/2002 7:11:35 AM PST by SheLion
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To: Texas Eagle
"And when the dust smoke settled all the townsfolk patrons gathered and spoke with wonderment about the stranger redhead armed with a clipboard and fire extinguisher who disappeared from their midst.

"Who was that masked man chick", someone dared ask? A bold voice from the rear of the crowd answered, "That was the Lone Ranger! "Carrie Nation's granddaughter!"

"Figures," one commented while stacking the corpses wiping the foam from his face and trying to re-light a wet cigarette.

31 posted on 12/26/2002 10:13:15 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: SheLion
Well, my God, how many times have you gone into a super market, and someone has a table set up to "try their product?" Little samples to eat! What's the difference I ask you? Tobacco IS a legal commodity for heavens sake!!!!!

DITTO !!!!!

32 posted on 12/26/2002 10:42:49 AM PST by timestax
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To: Sub-Driver
Hmmmm..who else hands out smokes to influence opinions....oh I remember. DEMOCRATS
33 posted on 12/26/2002 10:49:08 AM PST by finnman69
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To: finnman69
anti Dims bump!!
34 posted on 12/26/2002 1:07:55 PM PST by timestax
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To: SheLion
Can someone please tell me that if tobacco is so deadly, why aren't the anti's banning it instead of spewing all their stupid lies??!!

SheLion, they are banning it completely...they're just doing it a little at a time.

Remember, antis and politicians are not necessarily one and the same. But once the frog's in the pot and the heat is on (if the frog doesn't fight back), by deceiving the non-participating part of the population who then pressure the politicians, they "tax, restrict and humiliate" us into de facto prohibition. Then it's just a short step to total legislated prohibition. Stan-the-Sham Glantz predicts that tobacco use will be illegal within ten years. If people (not you, m'dear, or the others here who see the truth) don't wake up and say "ENOUGH!" he'll be right.

35 posted on 12/26/2002 1:23:48 PM PST by Max McGarrity
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To: Sub-Driver
OH MY GOSH...The Lark Tavern, Albany, New York! Back in the early '80's I formed a comedy club in the back of that bar! It made so much money the owner took it away from me to do himself!!!!! I love Albany...I loved my college years!
36 posted on 12/26/2002 1:29:31 PM PST by Hildy
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To: SheLion
Non profit my arse!

Maybe if they worked a little harder, they'd make a profit.

37 posted on 12/26/2002 1:29:33 PM PST by Mr Ducklips
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To: SheLion
If only nicotine was half as addictive to smokers as tax revenue is to a politician....
38 posted on 12/26/2002 1:36:00 PM PST by brewcrew
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To: Sub-Driver
``Selling something that is killing people is bad enough, but to give it away is kind of unbelievable,'' said Andria Bentley, a 19-year-old political science major at the University at Albany student who has seen the sampling at local bars.

Of course Andria is absotively correct in her assessment. And since this product is so deadly and everyone who smokes knows it, the obvious thing to do is to arrest every smoker for attempting suicide. </sarcasm>

39 posted on 12/26/2002 1:42:10 PM PST by Equality 7-2521
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To: Max McGarrity
SheLion, they are banning it completely...they're just doing it a little at a time.

Max, I didn't word that right. I meant "Tobacco." If smoking and tobacco is so deadly after hundreds of years, why don't they just ban TOBACCO and save everyone all this grief.

But! We all know WHY they won't ban TOBACCO! Too much money lining their pockets.

40 posted on 12/26/2002 5:26:01 PM PST by SheLion
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