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The Homosexual Link To Pedophilia
Accuracy in Media ^ | 12/18/02 | Don Irvine

Posted on 12/18/2002 11:00:51 AM PST by zingzang

The Catholic Bishops made two big mistakes in their handling of the sex scandal hitting the church. One, they didn’t get rid of priests who sexually abused children. A new policy of no tolerance may fix that. But the other, more basic, problem, is that too many homosexuals became priests in the liberal climate of the 1960s and ‘70s. The Vatican may fix that problem, and this is what has some in the media worried. On the CBS Evening News, reporter Byron Pitts said, "While the church tries to close the door on one sex scandal, another is brewing. The Vatican is now drafting a document that could ban homosexuals from the priest hood."

That’s another sex scandal? Since the homosexual lifestyle is frowned upon by church teaching, why would that be controversial? It’s only controversial if you’re a homosexual or if you try to maintain the fiction that there is no link between homosexuality and the sexual abuse of children. This is what Byron Pitts tried to say in his one-sided treatment of this very serious matter.

He presented a retired priest and psychotherapist named Richard Sipe, who estimated that 30 percent of Catholic priests are gay. That’s a high number. But Sipe didn’t want them kicked out. In fact, he told Pitts that a ban on homosexuals in the priesthood would be "like a gay bar refusing to serve homosexual patrons. It doesn’t make any sense." This has got to be one of the strangest analogies ever offered in defense of homosexuals as priests. His rationale is that since gay bars serve gays, the church should keep its homosexual priests. But the church is not supposed to be an arm of the homosexual movement.

Pitts presented the Reverend Jim Morris of a homosexual Catholic group called "Dignity," who assured the audience that homosexual priests are not prone to abuse kids. As Pitts reported, "Homosexuality and pedophilia, he says, are not related." A homosexual activist was supposed to be an objective source of information.

The expert who was missing from the CBS News report was Dr. Timothy Daily of the Family Research Council, who has written about a definite link between homosexuality and child abuse. He says, "Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two. This is because, by definition, male homosexuals are sexually attracted to other males. While many homosexuals may not seek young sexual partners, the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners."

Daily notes that the homosexual movement accepts pedophilia. The North American Man-Boy Love Association, NAMBLA, has been a proud member of the so-called "gay rights" movement, and pedophile themes abound in gay literature. Dailey notes that the late "beat" poet Allen Ginsberg was a pedophile, whose poetry contained explicit references to man-boy sex. Ginsberg was a member of NAMBLA. When Ginsberg died in 1997, journalists praised him as a cultural icon. Some mentioned he was a homosexual, but they concealed his perverted sexual preference for boys.

Reed Irvine can be reached at ri@aim.org


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; morality; pedophilia; prisoners
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To: johnny7
Tell me, yendu bwam, how do you know if a man or woman is a queer unless they tell you? You can't.

Well, in the Catholic Church, you have seminaries full of priest candidates who sleep with each other at night. That would be a clue. YOu have priests who frequent gay bars and go on gay cruises. That would be a clue, yes? My bishop, Frank Rodimer, invited his best friend (a priest) to his beach home every summer. The friend brought along a teenage boy who slept in his room every night. Of course, Rodimer couldn't figure out that his friend was homosexual, even while the boy was being molested in his own house night after night. C'mon. Priests spend years in all male seminaries before becoming priests. If they can control themselves well enough over all those years so that no one knows they're homosexual, OK. But that would be like being a (normal) man in a dorm full of girls for several years. Do you think most men could do that without the girls finding out the man was a healthy normal heterosexual male? I don't. The Church should minister to homosexuals with love and compassion. They should NOT be priests.

82 posted on 12/18/2002 12:42:49 PM PST by yendu bwam
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To: mason123; Notwithstanding
http://www.inoohr.org/qwestandnambla.htm
83 posted on 12/18/2002 12:50:51 PM PST by EdReform
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To: yendu bwam
These pedophiles and homosexuals in the church are not men of God, so what do you expect? Satan, in a large part, is running the church, and people cannot figure it out.
84 posted on 12/18/2002 12:51:18 PM PST by tessalu
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To: mason123
Apparently the fact the NAMBLA has an attorney and is fighting the lawsuit is not enough to convince you that NAMBLA still exists. This is a civil lawsuit and NAMBLA is a named defendant. No judge would allow NAMBLA to remain listed as a defendant if the group did not exist.

Of course NAMLA now keeps a low profile. But they exist.
Of course you will now claim that the judge and the ACLA and O'Reilly and Fox News are all liars - I am curious to know why you are so anxious to prove that NAMBLA is dead.




Fox News Network


SHOW: THE O'REILLY FACTOR (20:28)


September 25, 2002 Wednesday


Transcript # 092504cb.256

SECTION: News; Domestic

LENGTH: 961 words

HEADLINE: FACTOR Follow-Up
Interview With Robert Curley

GUESTS: Robert Curley

BYLINE: Bill O'Reilly

BODY:
O'REILLY: In THE "FACTOR Follow-Up" segment tonight, an update on the Curley family's lawsuit against the North American Man-Boy Love Association, NAMBLA. On October 1, 1997, 10-year-old Jeffrey Curley was murdered in Cambridge, Massachusetts, by two men, one of whom testified that NAMBLA literature he accessed on the computer at the Boston Public Library incited him to molest and kill the little boy.

The men are serving life in prison. Curley family sued NAMBLA for $200 million in federal court, where justice grinds very slowly. Joining us now from Boston is Jeffrey's father, Robert Curley.

All right. Where are we in this case, Mr. Curley?

ROBERT CURLEY, FATHER OF MURDERED 10-YEAR-OLD: Well, we're looking at a hearing coming up on the 9th of October. The ACLU is looking to get the case dismissed on grounds of jurisdiction, and it will probably be thrown out of the federal court and wind up in the state court...

O'REILLY: All right, so it's...

CURLEY: ... (UNINTELLIGIBLE) county of Essex.

O'REILLY: ... you and your family against the ACLU. The ACLU's still backing these NAMBLA thugs, huh?

CURLEY: They are indeed. They're trying to drag it out as long as they can.

O'REILLY: It is just unbelievable to me, and we've had, and I think we're going to run the later on, maybe next week, we'll run the interview I did with the attorney for the ACLU.

85 posted on 12/18/2002 12:57:46 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: EdReform
I wonder why the Administrative, Technical and Billing Contacts all have a San Francisco address and a New York telephone number.
86 posted on 12/18/2002 12:59:41 PM PST by eastsider
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To: mason123
Court filings of "Curley v NAMBLA" - young boy Curley was raped and murdered by men with NAMBLA propaganda in their car (men were convicted) - including a manual that explains how to seduce and molest without getting caught. Family now suing NAMBLA for damages.

http://www.thecpac.com/Curleys-v-NAMBLA.html

87 posted on 12/18/2002 1:01:46 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: eastsider
Queer Mecca
88 posted on 12/18/2002 1:02:14 PM PST by EdReform
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To: Stingray51
We know that Japanese society has sexual problems (groping on subways, etc...).

Japanese society has no sexual moral foundation. Come to think of it - that's just like America, where we (including many of our churches) have given up our Christian sexual morality to accept just about anything. That's why we have 4,000 abortions a day, 65,000 Americans with venereal diseases (many incurable), priests raping our sons, 1/2 of all children born out of wedlock, more and more women sterile from STDs, kids being taught that homosexual anal sex (filthy and disgusting) is normal, healthy and good, and child porn rings being broken up daily around the country.

89 posted on 12/18/2002 1:02:59 PM PST by yendu bwam
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To: mason123
1. Fox News Network, THE O'REILLY FACTOR (20:28), September 25, 2002 Wednesday, Transcript # 092504cb.256, News; Domestic, 961 words, FACTOR Follow-Up Interview With Robert Curley, Robert Curley, Bill O'Reilly

2. New York Observer, July 15, 2002, POLITICS&OPINIONS; National Observer, Pg. 4, 1286 words, Trampling Over Rights In the Name of Freedom, Nicholas von Hoffman

3. Fox News Network, THE O'REILLY FACTOR (20:38), May 24, 2002 Friday, Transcript # 052404cb.256, News; Domestic, 1352 words, Interview With Jan Larue, Jan Larue, Bill O'Reilly

4. Fox News Network, THE O'REILLY FACTOR (20:55), April 2, 2002 Tuesday, Transcript # 040207cb.256, News; International, 1353 words, Mail Reaction to Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, Bill O'Reilly

5. Fox News Network, THE O'REILLY FACTOR (20:28), April 1, 2002 Monday, Transcript # 040104cb.256, News; Domestic, 889 words, Follow-Up Interview With John Reinstein, John Reinstein, Bill O'Reilly

6. Fox News Network, THE O'REILLY FACTOR (20:37), April 1, 2002 Monday, Transcript # 040105cb.256, News; Domestic, 1933 words, Personal Story Interview With Robert Reich, Robert Reich, Bill O'Reilly

7. The Hotline, March 28, 2002, MEDIA MONITOR, 2564 words, THIS MORNING

8. The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, February 04, 2002, Monday, Pg. B5, 304 words, Feedback

9. Alberta Report, January 21, 2002, No. 2, Vol. 29; Pg. 18; ISSN: 0225-0519, 1618 words, A battle waiting to be lost: As law enforcement slowly flags, a private citizen posts a reward for busting pedophiles; Child Sex., Ko, Marnie

10. Report Newsmagazine, January 21, 2002, v.29(2) Ja 21'02 pg 19; ISSN: 1488-8084, 5298229, 529 words, ''Rape a child and avoid prosecution'', Ko, Marnie

11. Report Newsmagazine, January 21, 2002, v.29(2) Ja 21'02 pg 19; ISSN: 1488-8084, 5298229, 529 words, ''Rape a child and avoid prosecution'' (Record in progress), Ko, Marnie

12. Fox News Network, THE O'REILLY FACTOR (20:12), January 10, 2002 Thursday, Transcript # 011002cb.256, News; Domestic, 1679 words, Impact Interview With Gloria Allred, Gloria Allred, Bill O'Reilly
90 posted on 12/18/2002 1:03:09 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: mason123
From source # 11 in my last post:

According to evidence introduced in court during the
murder trial, the killers followed suggestions in a NAMBLA manual for
befriending the boy. One NAMBLA publication, The Survival Manual: The
Man's Guide to Staying Safe in Man/Boy Sexual Relationships, was among
those found in Jaynes' vehicle, court was told. Police also found the
pedophile's diary in his apartment. In it, the killer wrote about seducing
young boys and said NAMBLA changed his life: ''This was a turning point in
discovery of myself...NAMBLA's Bulletin helped me to become aware of my
own sexuality and acceptance of it,'' Jaynes wrote. Police also found a
manual published by NAMBLA entitled Rape and Escape, which explicitly
details how pedophiles can lure, befriend and rape a child, then avoid
prosecution, court was told.
91 posted on 12/18/2002 1:05:04 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: McNoggin
Are you gay?
93 posted on 12/18/2002 1:08:31 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: mason123
Homosexuals are not of one mind any more than other social groups.

Maybe not, but you can bet that even more so than in the black community, only the far-left side gets out as an official position! And regarding those who believe homosexuality is a lifestyle that one can "come out" of, I have never heard or read of a gay group that doesn't rain scorn down on them.

94 posted on 12/18/2002 1:10:56 PM PST by L.N. Smithee
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To: mason123
Do you accept that NAMBLA's name would be removed from the lawsuit if the judge did not have evidence that NAMBLA no longer existed?
95 posted on 12/18/2002 1:13:52 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: mason123
Correction: Do you accept that NAMBLA's name would be removed from the lawsuit if the judge did not have evidence that NAMBLA existed?
96 posted on 12/18/2002 1:14:23 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: mason123
Correction: Do you accept that NAMBLA's name would be removed from the lawsuit if the judge did not have evidence that NAMBLA exists ?
97 posted on 12/18/2002 1:14:56 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: zingzang
For future reference -- this is an unsigned editorial from the publishers of a leading gay newspaper in San Francisco, in response to a letter from a gay person condemning the participation of NAMBLA in the upcoming Gay Freedom Day parade:

"The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality. For the gay community to imply that boy-love is not homosexual love is ridiculous. We must not be seduced into believing misinformation from the press and the government. Child molesting does occur, but there are also positive sexual relations. And we need to support the men and the boys in those relationships."

"Point of View: ‘No Place for Homo-Homophobia.’" San Francisco Sentinel, March 26, 1992.



99 posted on 12/18/2002 1:19:08 PM PST by L.N. Smithee
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To: madg
Only with deliberate ignorance of mainstream science and misinterpretation of data can any such alleged “link” be shown.

Even the ancient Greeks knew there was a link. Their word for homosexual was senokoitais which meant men who sodomize boys.

100 posted on 12/18/2002 1:19:59 PM PST by Dataman
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