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Blessing for gay wedding threatens Anglicans
The Daily Telegraph ^ | December 16, 2002 | Jonathan Petre

Posted on 12/15/2002 5:01:22 PM PST by MadIvan

A small parish in Vancouver is poised to make history and hasten schism in the worldwide Church by holding Anglicanism's first officially sanctioned blessing of a homosexual "marriage".

The Canadian diocese's liberal bishop will authorise a special rite early in the New Year and St Paul's, in the city's gay district, heads the queue to stage a same-sex wedding ceremony, complete with rings and confetti.

The event, a radical departure from traditional Christian teaching, will push the Rev Neil Gray, the parish's English rector, into the media spotlight. It will also put the new Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, who officially took up the post earlier this month, on the spot.

Although such blessings are illicitly performed across the world, they are covert events towards which the bishops can turn a blind eye.

Moreover, the evangelical wing, that section of the Church for whom such ceremonies are unbiblical abominations, can comfort itself that they are not part of mainstream Church policy.

But this service will be different: it is backed by a diocesan bishop and his diocese; it is official and out in the open. Anglicans will be forced to decide whether or not they can live with it.

Despite castigation by the outgoing Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr George Carey, Bishop Michael Ingham has refused to back down since his diocese, New Westminster, voted for homosexual blessings in the summer.

His defiance of the 1998 Lambeth Conference, at which a majority of bishops voted to maintain a ban on such blessings and the ordination of homosexuals, has provoked a crisis more acute than that over women's ordination 10 years ago.

Two months ago, Dr Carey warned that the worldwide Church was on the brink of schism because individual bishops were introducing controversial reforms unilaterally.

One homosexual blessing in Canada is not, on its own, going to destroy the 70 million-strong worldwide Church as a cohesive "Communion" with a shared set of core beliefs. It will, however, increase the battle for the soul of Anglicanism between liberals in the West and "orthodox" believers, largely based in Africa and Asia.

The vote at the last Lambeth Conference represented a huge triumph for the evangelicals, who had organised themselves as an effective campaigning force.

However, the liberals are ready to take back the initiative. At least two American dioceses are expected to follow New Westminster and bless same-sex unions within months and a third could elect an openly practising homosexual cleric as its bishop next year.

Beneath the simmering dispute over sex, and a more fundamental fight over the authority of Scripture, there is also a clash of cultures.

The African Church is the fastest growing segment of Anglicanism but it still feels that it is dancing to a Western tune, where congregations are dwindling.

The widening gulf was symbolised at Lambeth when a Nigerian bishop attempted to exorcise the Rev Richard Kirker, the general secretary of the London-based Lesbian and Gay Christian Movement.

The parish of St Paul's, whose clergy refer to God as "She" and who host homosexual line dancing evenings, is light years away from its African counterparts, where homosexuality is seen as demonic.

Mr Gray, its Buckinghamshire-born rector, believes it is high time for the liberals to defy the rest of the Church to force change, leaving those who cannot accept the inevitable with little option but to break away.

Dr Williams, one of whose roles is to keep the Communion in one piece, does not have the luxury of such an unconciliatory position, even if he wanted it.

As he has admitted to ordaining a practising homosexual and is calling for an "honest debate" on the issue (which evangelicals read as code for liberal reform), he is already suspect.

He may not have much time to rein in the mavericks and persuade doubters that a rocky marriage is better than divorce.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anglicans; badidea; gaywedding; homosexualagenda
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Things like this make me happy I'm a Catholic!

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 12/15/2002 5:01:22 PM PST by MadIvan
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Bump!
2 posted on 12/15/2002 5:01:36 PM PST by MadIvan
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4 posted on 12/15/2002 5:06:10 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: MadIvan
...to stage a same-sex wedding ceremony, complete with rings and confetti.

LOL They can never do anything without an ostentatious display.

5 posted on 12/15/2002 5:08:24 PM PST by jla
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To: MadIvan
Gargle, and kiss the bride/groom/bride/oh whatever!

The ring bearer was cute, but the little tike carrying the gerbil cage was just adorable.






6 posted on 12/15/2002 5:08:25 PM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: jla
LOL They can never do anything without an ostentatious display.

I think there is money to be made in the manufacture of mirrored balls and managing
a look-and-sound-alike band doing Village People tunes...
7 posted on 12/15/2002 5:11:32 PM PST by VOA
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To: Bluntpoint
The ring bearer was cute, but the little tike carrying the gerbil cage was just adorable.

Wonder if it was this lot:

"Armageddon!"

Regards, Ivan

8 posted on 12/15/2002 5:11:45 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
The African Church is the fastest growing segment of Anglicanism but it still feels
that it is dancing to a Western tune, where congregations are dwindling.


Something that is interesting to note is that within the mainstream Churches of Christ
here in the USA...the congregations that are predominantly African-American are probably
the most socially conservative (on average).
9 posted on 12/15/2002 5:13:11 PM PST by VOA
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To: MadIvan
[b]The widening gulf was symbolised at Lambeth when a Nigerian bishop attempted to exorcise the Rev Richard Kirker, the general secretary of the London-based Lesbian and Gay Christian Movement.[/b]

LMAO!!

10 posted on 12/15/2002 5:15:13 PM PST by Blackyce
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To: MadIvan
The widening gulf was symbolised at Lambeth when a Nigerian bishop attempted to exorcise the Rev Richard Kirker, the general secretary of the London-based Lesbian and Gay Christian Movement.

I wish I had been there to see it.

European and American liberals in the churches are absolutely terrified of third-world Christians, most of whom are much more conservative. This is true of many Protestant denominations as well as the Catholic Church.

You have to wonder whether the Republicans aren't going the wrong way about prying Hispanics and blacks from the clutches of the Democrat party. Maybe they should start asking them how they can vote for such immoral people.

11 posted on 12/15/2002 5:22:50 PM PST by Cicero
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To: MadIvan
Let’s hear it!

WE WANT A SCHISM

WE WANT A SCHISM

WE WANT A SCHISM

12 posted on 12/15/2002 5:46:15 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: MadIvan
The latest successor to the See of Canterbury has so far said that while his own personal philosophies are definitely left of center, he recognizes that his new position requires him to try to keep the Anglicans together in a collegial fashion, rather than try to lead them in a direction that he'd like to see them go. So I expect to see him condemn this act.

OTOH, he's not a Pope. He can advise, and if he condemns this act it will help satisfy the African Anglicans (as well as the ECUSA, which has so far not favored legitimizing such a ceremony). However, the next step belongs to whoever the Primate of Canada is. He or she may have the power to initiate disciplinary action against this Bishop, depending on what Canon Law is in Canada.

13 posted on 12/15/2002 6:27:45 PM PST by RonF
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To: MadIvan
The story makes it sound like there is some doubt as to what the ArchDruid of Canterbury might do. I thought his track record on this subject was well established.
14 posted on 12/15/2002 6:42:28 PM PST by PAR35
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To: MadIvan
Reply to post #1: Proving that the anglican church like so many other mainline churches are now apostate churches of satan.
15 posted on 12/15/2002 6:53:35 PM PST by A6M3
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Thank God I was raised Pentecostal and still am!
16 posted on 12/15/2002 7:04:38 PM PST by JohnnyRidden
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To: MadIvan
Things like this make me happy I'm a Catholic!

As a Christian, things like this make me sad.

17 posted on 12/15/2002 7:12:54 PM PST by Sci Fi Guy
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To: MadIvan; Happygal
Things like this make me happy I'm a Catholic!

BUMPUS MAXIMUS.

Happy Gaudate Sunday to you my friend. May the rest of Advent be filed with joy.
18 posted on 12/15/2002 7:17:01 PM PST by Desdemona
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To: MadIvan
Things like this make me happy I'm a Catholic!

LOL!! I was thinking the same thing! The more the Anglican and Episcopals do this, the more of their number will come over to the Catholic Church. My former niece-in-law's mother was Episcopal and left the Church when they got a new Priest who brought along her female 'partner'; and this was in South Mississippi!!

I think it Andrew Sullivan who said most homosexual men don't want a marriage, but they'd sure like to have a wedding!

19 posted on 12/15/2002 8:20:53 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: William Creel
What has she done? Defender of the faith? Nothing but knighted faggots. When leaders do not stand up to evil, decline and fall follows.
20 posted on 12/15/2002 8:21:30 PM PST by TransOxus
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