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New book on parenting engenders anger in gays
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| 12/13/02
| Ruth Padawar
Posted on 12/14/2002 1:12:14 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: On the Road to Serfdom
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81
posted on
12/15/2002 9:04:03 AM PST
by
EdReform
To: I_Love_My_Husband
I don't pretend to understand what causes homosexuality, nor do I pretend to understand what would prevent it. I do know that there was a time when it did not matter so much. When it was kept private, to be shared with only those they chose to share it with, they were treated much like heterosexual couples. No one ever talked about their sex life, because it was a very personal and private subject.
If they were born with this homosexuality, like people are born with blue eyes or brown eyes, and if there was nothing they could do to change their behavior, like they want us to believe, why are they so intent on "converting" our young peopl?. Why do they want to teach homosexuality in the schools? If it were normal or natural, all of their efforts would be in vain.
I could care less if someone wants to indulge in that lifestyle as long as they do it in the privacy of their homes, and do not try and convert me or my children.
Using the public school systems to teach that this is "normal" behavior, that homosexuals can't change how they feel, and encourage young people to engage in this behavior without giving them the facts about how risky this lifestyle is is not acceptable.
IF they kept their behavior private, there would not be any discrimination against them because no one would know.
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posted on
12/15/2002 10:13:07 AM PST
by
ODDITHER
To: Elsie
My wife provides an excellent and ongoing treatment for such a malady, and she states I'm a good treatment for her as well. Sign me, still playing doctor after 13 years!
To: EdReform
I don't know but it's very likely. The Division 44 in the APA is disproportionately homosexual.
To: gcruse
What's next? Foot binding? I know the facts dont concern the pro-sodomy crowds but foot binding isnt a pathology, homosexuality is. All the sarcasm in the world cant change that. Now go crawl back under the rock from whence you came.
To: I_Love_My_Husband
Men and women are made differently for a reason. To not have the desire to utilize one's differences for the right purpose is a disorder. Darwin comes into play here though..
To: Clint N. Suhks
Foot binding is an attempt to deform what is natural into what is pleasing to somebody else. Forcing kids into roles they may not fit does them a great disservice. Tomboys may grow up to be perfectly hetero girls. Making them ashamed for being themselves is destructive. If there's a rock here, it's your head.
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posted on
12/15/2002 3:08:45 PM PST
by
gcruse
To: gcruse
Thank you for the history of foot binding, too bad the analogy is inane. Comparing a pathology to something natural (i.e. comparing right behavior with wrong behavior) is in and of itself disordered.
Tomboys may grow up to be perfectly hetero girls.
Oh? They may but research show its likely that they wont.
Making them ashamed for being themselves is destructive.
First of all who said that treatment involves shaming? Second, do you have some research that shows this treatment is destructive? Ill bet you dont. So are we to believe your OPINION or research that proves otherwise? Remember, sarcasm and stupidity is no replacement the facts and truth.
To: Trickyguy
That's what I decided ---it's better to not over-react over things little kids might do, I've seen tomboys grow up to still be tomboys but very boy-crazy and most little boys will at some point put on their mom's makeup just to see what it is ---out of curiosity ---if they're 1 or 2 when they do this, it means nothing ---but maybe means something if they're 15 or 16.
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posted on
12/15/2002 4:26:59 PM PST
by
FITZ
To: I_Love_My_Husband
"New book on parenting engenders anger in gays" Male, Female, Gay, Lesbian, and now "EN" genders. The pecadillos one must study just to comprehend the news. Tut tut.
To: luckystarmom
I have identical twin daughters too!! It's been a lifetime of fun!
91
posted on
12/15/2002 10:38:48 PM PST
by
potlatch
To: Paul Atreides
Of course they will. They did not drop homosexuality as a disorder because of any scientific study that proved otherwise (especially since none exist), but due to political pressure from homosexual activists.
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posted on
12/16/2002 3:12:43 AM PST
by
Houmatt
To: BrowningBAR
"They are ideas that the medical establishment rejected years ago." Uhh ... before the medical establishment became politicized, Nicholosi's ideas were ideas that the medical establishment endorsed for hundreds of years. But, I bet that data won't make it into the next press release.
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posted on
12/16/2002 7:47:29 AM PST
by
tom h
To: I_Love_My_Husband
The American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, and the American Medical Association all concluded about 30 years ago that homosexuality is not a disorder.
Everyone commenting on this phrase seems to forget about the following sentence.
More recently, they note that several studies indicate at least some biological basis for sexual orientation.
To rephrase this, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, and the American Medical Association all concluded decided to call homosexuality not a disorder and after 30 years of doing studies have finally found SOME evidence that they can twist to support their politically decided decsion. But it took them 30 years of searching to be able to find anything they call evidence of biologically based homosexuality.
By the way, there is ample evidence that addictive behaviors is at least partly genetic. I haven't heard of any shrinks that try to treat alcoholics by telling them that they are normal, should continue drinking and actually be proud they are different. Even if homosexuality is shown conclusively to be inborn, that still does not make it desireable.
And one other word - those who would attack someone because they are homosexual has a bigger disorder than the homosexual.
94
posted on
12/16/2002 8:09:38 AM PST
by
BruceS
To: I_Love_My_Husband
Message to crybaby gays & lesbian:
WE'RE HERE, WE'RE STRAIGHT, GET USED TO IT!!!
To: Copperhead61; Clint N. Suhks; scripter; ppaul
Bump
96
posted on
12/16/2002 11:22:34 AM PST
by
EdReform
To: FITZ
When my little boy was three I thought he was playing too much with his twin sister's barbie dolls, telling them they were pretty and kissing them, so I got him a Ken doll but then I saw him throwing Ken at the wall or onto the ceiling and asked him what he was doing to Ken ---he was beating him up. Sounds like your little boy is normal, though you better watch him. He might want to be a professional wrestler. Randy 'Macho Man' Savage, watch out!!!
To: I_Love_My_Husband
bump for later reading
To: I_Love_My_Husband
New book ... engenders anger in gays Was this deliberate humor?
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posted on
12/16/2002 4:33:54 PM PST
by
Rytwyng
To: yendu bwam
Bumping for your later reading.
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