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To Defeat Bush: A Florida teachers' union leverages its HQ to defeat the president's brother.
National Review Online ^ | October 21, 2002 | Bernadette Malone

Posted on 10/21/2002 10:49:37 AM PDT by xsysmgr

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To: JZoback
Thank you.

McBride/McAuliffe Seeks to Block Funding Probe teacher's union involved in campaign ads, Sept. 25, Miami Herald.
Elections commission may subpoena McBride over adsSept. 27, AP.
McBride Campaign Entwines With Teachers Union (FEA).
Teachers Union a Factor in Fla., McBride is bought.
Dems Got Nearly All Teacher Union Contributions, Report States

21 posted on 10/21/2002 7:00:13 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: JZoback; summer; Lazamataz
"The unmitigated gall of the teachers union to mortgage their members union dues is un............believable."

I think that you've really hit on something. This really is a case of mortgaging union member dues, which means that the Supreme Court's "Beck" decision could become a factor (i.e. the SCOTUS ruled that union members can recover all union dues spent for political purposes with which they disagree)...

22 posted on 10/21/2002 7:48:00 PM PDT by Southack
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To: xsysmgr
Bump.
23 posted on 10/22/2002 3:42:25 AM PDT by windchime
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To: Southack
bttt
24 posted on 10/22/2002 5:00:02 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Southack
This just goes to show that the unions are ALREADY conceding that President Bush will win in a landslide in 2004 - because they are mortgaging their future and spending all of their money now.

Hey Southack - you're great at calling the winner of a horse race before the race is even half run.

BTW - Are you still in business, or has all your work been outsourced to India/Pakistan/Russia?

The economic situation, especially for high tech is NOT getting better, it's a structural problem.

I hear Singapore is getting hot for outsource work.

25 posted on 10/22/2002 6:48:25 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: Tuco-bad
"BTW - Are you still in business, or has all your work been outsourced to India/Pakistan/Russia? The economic situation, especially for high tech is NOT getting better, it's a structural problem. I hear Singapore is getting hot for outsource work."

I've almost got more business than I can handle. It seems as though my out-of-state competitors no longer have the resources available to compete effectively with me. Too bad for them.

And why would I outsource work anywhere now that there is such an available surplus of American talent? Singapore is hot? Only the weather. People who outsource to Singapore and China are 9 times out of 10 "first time" outsourcers. They'll learn later on just how bad the quality and how eggregiously those shops miss deadlines, and God only knows that they can't handle a simple spec change once the process has started (which rules out 95% of all American software projects - as we like to change our minds at the last moment to frequently keep up with our dynamic environment).

If by "economic problem" for high tech you mean that the easy-money-boom-times are gone, then yes, I agree. On the other hand, just because the easy money is gone doesn't mean that all of the money is gone from high tech. Technology has its place, and companies will always be willing to pay for certain technological improvements.

Am I shedding any tears for my competitors who don't have my level of staying power, however?! Hardly.

Gee, contracts no longer have 200% markups. Who woulda thunk that such easy money was only transient, rather than a permanent fixture?!

26 posted on 10/22/2002 9:34:01 AM PDT by Southack
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And why would I outsource work anywhere now that there is such an available surplus of American talent?

Tell that to corporate America, as outsourcing is accelerating (saves companies on average 2/3 of cost of project).

27 posted on 10/22/2002 9:39:23 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: xsysmgr
btt
28 posted on 10/22/2002 9:48:49 AM PDT by Cacique
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To: Tuco-bad
Sure, corporate America is outsourcing, but not so much overseas as to other American firms like my own.

Outsourcing makes sense, however. Most companies aren't in the software business. In other business aspects, companies already outsource when the work involved isn't their primary line of business. For instance, most companies employ external legal aid rather than hire their own attorneys. Most firms employ outside plumbers rather than hire their own. Most firms employ external print shops rather than hire the graphics designers and purchase Heidelberg presses.

So it's only natural that non-software companies outsource their software development rather than hire a bunch of programmers themselves.

But outsource to Singapore or India?! Man, I've been there and done that, and there just isn't the quality, timeliness, and flexibility needed for most dynamic American corporations. One of our India projects, for instance, was getting email responses from the Indian director that all was fine up until the deadline, at which point he never wrote to us again, even when we held back his checks. We later learned that he had simply found something else (presumably less difficult) to do and moved on without telling anyone (OK, without telling us, his client). That might be fine in India's culture (and some of their programmers who have made it to America are decent), but it clearly isn't the way that American businesses want to operate. Fortuneately, for us it was a small project but a big lesson that confirmed our experiences with other, similar offshore efforts.

29 posted on 10/22/2002 9:53:05 AM PDT by Southack
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To: Southack
One of our India (outsourcing) projects, for instance, was getting email responses from the Indian director that all was fine up until the deadline, at which point he never wrote to us again, even when we held back his checks.

So the truth finally comes out, you run an outsouring hi-tech firm, even outsouring to India.

I'm sure our out-of-work hi-tech FReepers will appreciate your future posts (/sarcasm).

30 posted on 10/22/2002 10:41:29 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: Tuco-bad
"I'm sure our out-of-work hi-tech FReepers will appreciate your future posts.."

Only if they're looking for work in Alabama.

31 posted on 10/22/2002 10:42:54 AM PDT by Southack
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To: Southack
I'm sure our out-of-work hi-tech FReepers will appreciate your future posts.."

Only if they're looking for work in Alabama.

or India.

32 posted on 10/22/2002 10:48:52 AM PDT by Tuco-bad
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To: Tuco-bad
Anyone think this desperation from the teacher's union to elect a Democrat Governor is for the benefit of their students? NOT!

This desperation is so that a Dem governor can give the Teachers Union more POWER and more MONEY. IOW, they are doing this for their own profit...mortgaging property paid for by the taxpayers to line their own pockets.

33 posted on 10/22/2002 10:57:30 AM PDT by copycat
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To: Tuco-bad
"Hey Southack - you're great at calling the winner of a horse race before the race is even half run."

Yeah, but since when was it such a big feat to point out that in a two-horse race that one side was conceding?!

I can't wait to hear the fuzzy rationalizations that the FEA will no doubt use when they are short money in 2004 (gee, not much voter backlash against Bush in Florida, I guess)...

34 posted on 10/22/2002 11:53:00 AM PDT by Southack
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To: Southack
Yeah, but since when was it such a big feat to point out that in a two-horse race that one side was conceding?!

Swaps even though his leg was hurting didn't "concede" his match race in 1955 to Nassau.

35 posted on 10/22/2002 12:45:02 PM PDT by Tuco-bad
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