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Oklahoma City's lost information ( repost of 4-23-01 article )
World Net Daily ^ | 4/23/01 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 10/11/2002 9:48:32 AM PDT by backhoe

Oklahoma City's lost information

News/Current Events Front Page News
Source: WorldNetDaily
Published: 4/23/01 Author: Jon Dougherty
Posted on 04/23/2001 00:26:10 PDT by kattracks

WND Exclusive

Oklahoma City's
lost information

Early accounts differ from today's 'official' explanation of bombing

By Jon Dougherty
© 2001

An analysis of raw news footage and reports in the immediate aftermath of the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah building in Oklahoma City, Okla., shows local television reporters stating repeatedly that two additional, sophisticated, undetonated explosive devices were found by investigators on the scene.

The television reports raise questions about the official government version of events that an "extremist" and his friend acted alone, using a Ryder rental truck and a 1,200-pound ammonium nitrate and fuel oil, or ANFO, bomb to destroy the face of the building.

For example, initial news broadcasts by KWTV-9, KFOR TV-5 and Channel 4 News all feature reports confirmed by state, local and federal officials that a total of three bombs had been placed inside the Murrah building.

TV news footage showed Oklahoma County Sheriff's Department bomb squad vehicles being brought to the scene within a half-hour of the explosion, "amid reports" that "more bombs have been found" by rescuers.

Also, reporters at the scene confirmed that the two other bombs were larger than the first one, and that the bomb that had exploded blew up inside -- not outside -- the building.

Reports said the other two bombs were found on the east and west sides of the building; the explosion occurred at the front, or north side, of the building.

In one clip, the medical director for St. Anthony's Hospital told reporters that local OKC police had informed him that rescue efforts had been called off temporarily "because of the other bombs found in the building. …"

And, TV-9 reported that "the U.S. Justice Department has confirmed" that other bombs were found in the structure.

In subsequent reports, within the first few hours of the explosion, news crews were reporting that federal and local authorities had confirmed that the two other explosives had been "defused" and "moved off site."

The 'lone' suspects

Timothy McVeigh, now 32, was convicted in 1997 for his role in the April 19, 1995, bombing, and is scheduled to be executed by the government May 16 at a federal prison facility in Terre Haute, Ind.

The Justice Department said Friday that bombing survivors and victims' families would be able to view the execution via closed-circuit television. He will be the first federal prisoner executed in 36 years. In 1997, he was convicted in the bombing deaths of 168 people, including 19 children.

McVeigh has said he bombed the Murrah building in retaliation for the FBI's raid on a Branch Davidian religious facility April 19, 1993, in Waco, Texas, which led to a fire that killed 80 men, women and children.

McVeigh said he did it to give the federal government "dirty for dirty."

Meanwhile, Terry Nichols, also convicted in 1997 as an accomplice in the OKC attack, is currently serving a life sentence in federal prison. But he also faces Oklahoma state charges of capital murder pressed by prosecutors who have pledged to seek the death penalty.

Early news reports indicated government sources were saying that "bombs were brought into" the Murrah building, and that because they were able to find undetonated devices, authorities would be able to "find out who is responsible" for the bombing.

In one clip, Oklahoma Gov. Frank Keating also confirmed the presence of other explosives.

"The reports I have are that one device was deactivated … [and] apparently, there was another device. Whatever did the damage to the Murrah building was a tremendous … a very sophisticated explosive device. …" Keating was heard saying.

One TV news report then said that then-President Bill Clinton "has called Gov. Keating … and said three FBI anti-terrorist teams" were being sent from Washington, D.C., to OKC, ostensibly to investigate the incident. The report further stated that "the White House and Justice Department … have said [the bombing] was the work of a sophisticated group … and would have to have been carried out by an explosives expert."

McVeigh and Nichols were not explosives experts, critics of the government's official version of events point out.

Later in the day and into the next day, details of the official explanations and information that had been witnessed or confirmed early on by news organizations, reporters and authorities handling the rescue efforts began to change.

Within 24 hours, federal officials from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms were saying that the explosion had not occurred within the building itself but instead the damage had been caused by a "car" parked in front of the building, loaded with the ANFO bomb. Soon afterward, the "car" became a Ryder rental truck and the explosives grew in size, to about 4,500 pounds.

Also, officials began to discount the second- and third bomb story, instead focusing only on the outside, north-face explosion as the one and only explosive source at the entire complex.

At one point, news reports began to suggest that officials believed the outside explosion was intended to set off the other explosions inside, but witness statements began to be reported that would refute the single-bomb claim.

Witnesses interviewed by local TV affiliates said they felt the Murrah building "shake and shift" for several seconds before "glass blew in" on top of them. One witness said he saw the ceiling collapse as he dove under his desk, "several seconds before the glass came in at me."

Experts began to theorize that the ANFO bomb in the Ryder truck was indeed integral to what happened, but not as Washington said. Rather, they theorized that the ANFO explosion -- which came after the internal explosion -- was intended to mask that first explosion and gave the government plausibility for its single-bomb-outside-the-structure version of events; the version that eventually became widely accepted.

Backup evidence

In the years following the bombing, independent investigators, journalists and bomb experts have studied the available evidence and found new evidence to suggest the earliest reports of what happened just over six years ago were probably the most accurate.

For instance, one particular website has published official government documents and statements that substantiate the 3-bomb reports first aired by local television news.

A Department of Defense Atlantic Command memo, issued one day after the bombing, says "… a second bomb was disarmed; a third bomb was evacuated. …"

A Federal Emergency Management Agency "SitRep" (situational report), dated April 20, 1995, also confirms the presence of three bombs inside the building. And a U.S. Forces Command daily log report from the same day said: "Two more explosive devices were located vicinity the explosion site. Evidently intended for the rescuers."

Finally, an Oklahoma Highway Patrol radio log said, "OC Fire Dept. confirms they did find a second device in the bldg/OK. …"

Also, independent engineers, explosives experts and military analysts conducted studies of the available evidence, many concluding that the government's "single truck-single bomb" explanation was technically impossible.

Perhaps one of the most dominant of these was conducted by Brig. Gen. Ben K. Partin, a retired Air Force officer with decades of military experience in the design of explosives and warheads.

His exhaustive study, completed July 30, 1995 -- less than three months after the bombing -- also concluded that explosive charges, or "demolitions," were most likely placed inside the structure at key points designed to "bring the building down. …"

Coming to closure

Despite those early reports and later studies that appear to substantiate the information contained in them, federal prosecutors and the FBI were resolute in discounting much of it when the case went to trial. Instead, the Justice Department's cases were entirely built on McVeigh, Nichols, and the Ryder truck bomb theory.

Even though McVeigh is scheduled to be executed in just a few short weeks, and even if Nichols ends up with a similar fate, there will always be questions from some who remain convinced -- as those early reporters were -- that something other than Washington's official version really happened that fateful day in 1995.

Many questions will probably never be answered, however. The Murrah building was demolished two weeks after the attack; the site was covered with dirt and the building materials were trucked to an off-site dump manned by armed guards and buried.

Further independent analysis of the materials was not, and has not, been permitted.

Other questions still nag critics of the government case:

Related stories:

Oklahoma City blast linked to Bin Laden

OKC: 'We knew this was going to happen'

Jon E. Dougherty is a staff reporter and columnist for WorldNetDaily, and author of the special report, "Election 2000: How the Military Vote Was Suppressed."

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fredthompson; okcbombing
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Originally, this was Posted on 04/23/2001 00:26:10 PDT by kattracks- the thread is now locked and can't be bumped, so I have taken the liberty of copying it over here.

While newer information has surfaced, there are useful details in this report. FYI, FWIW...

1 posted on 10/11/2002 9:48:32 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: TXnMA; Elkiejg; baseballmom; PhiKapMom; Go Gordon; Republic; glorygirl
I plucked your names somewhat at random from other posts- if you have OKC ping lists who might be interested, please use them.
2 posted on 10/11/2002 9:53:46 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
SO what are we saying here other than our government is corrupt & this corruption continues today under the other faction of the "Two-Party Cartel".
3 posted on 10/11/2002 10:05:59 AM PDT by Digger
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To: backhoe; *OKCbombing; GirlShortstop
4 posted on 10/11/2002 10:11:28 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: backhoe
The only vivid memory of that day left in my mind was watching on TV after the initial explosion of people running for their lives as police and fire officials were screaming that there was another bomb and everyone should evacuate. The TV reporter (whose name I can't remember) was told by the anchor person to join in on the evacuation. Later there was someone shouting in the background, "We found it. We found it."
5 posted on 10/11/2002 10:33:12 AM PDT by toupsie
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To: Digger
whoa..two party cartel?...
We shall see what new gun laws emerge from these shootings...and then perhaps you will be proven right or wrong..
I say for now at least that Bush is ok...and is the best for us as a nation right now...
Ashcroft and Rummie and Gen Tommy Franks are the best in our nation...
I would like to see the Homeland Security director 86'd and the job given to someone like
Gen Hal Moore though...
6 posted on 10/11/2002 10:33:30 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: backhoe
8 posted on 10/11/2002 11:07:44 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: Free the USA
Thanks for indexing & the flags; let's add the banner:



Other Bump Lists at: Free Republic Bump List Register

9 posted on 10/11/2002 11:10:13 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: toupsie
Appreciate your testimony... I honestly can't recall if I heard that as it happened, or am remembering something else from later- but I do recall something like that.
10 posted on 10/11/2002 11:12:37 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: rosebud
smell conspiracy?

Oh, God, Yes! This isn't really the place for my dislike and theories about the clintons' many enablers, in and out of the media- but they had a hand in this, and much more, during "The Decade of Fraud(s)..."

11 posted on 10/11/2002 11:15:12 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
Gosh, I've NEVER seen there EVER being information occuring in a confused, breaking situation that later turns out to be wrong.
12 posted on 10/11/2002 11:20:05 AM PDT by John H K
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To: RaceBannon
Race, thanks for stopping by!
13 posted on 10/11/2002 11:21:50 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
I don't know if it is still available anywhere, but I listened to a recording that was made at the time of the explosion fairly near the building, and you hear a woman beginning to give a presentation for a meeting of some kind and then you hear a series of explosions that sounds distinctly like a demolition. A series of explosions, boom, boom, boom, boom... something like that. I should have saved the recording!
14 posted on 10/11/2002 11:55:58 AM PDT by truth defector
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To: truth defector
Thanks very much for that information. I recall a seismograph report of multiple shocks, and several different theories trying to account for them.
15 posted on 10/11/2002 12:20:00 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Alamo-Girl; Gary Aldrich; amom; archy; aristeides; anymouse; AtticusX; backhoe; baseballmom; ...
if you have OKC ping lists who might be interested, please use them.

Thanks! Here's a big OKC BOMBING COVERUP BUMP to glorygirl's full list... (and you're on it already, backhoe.)

TXnMA (No Longer!!!)

16 posted on 10/11/2002 12:50:54 PM PDT by TXnMA
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I greatly appreciate that- thank you!

I just happened to have the original post bookmarked, so it was simple to find... I know I have seen other, much older posts here, and I suspect they could be found by one patient enough to wade back through all the links in the OKC Bombing bump list. Whether this would produce anything substantive I can't say for certain, but it might be worth doing in light of the fresh attention being given to this old horror.

17 posted on 10/11/2002 1:00:09 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: All
Lookee here:

Bin Laden link remains elusive
Ex-TV reporter's claim of Islamic plot, though compelling, still lacks evidence
May 25,2001

18 posted on 10/11/2002 1:28:33 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: John H K
Don't waste your breath, JHK. This information has been developed by a trained news reporter and has been analyzed by experts. Instead, why don't you try to find the contradictions, if you see any, in Jayna Davis' accounts? Then, you might be taken seriously.
19 posted on 10/11/2002 1:43:42 PM PDT by Misterioso
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Thanks for the heads up!
20 posted on 10/11/2002 1:49:25 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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