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Mike's blowing 2nd-hand smoke
New York Daily News ^ | 10/09/02 | SIDNEY ZION

Posted on 10/09/2002 2:13:44 AM PDT by kattracks

If secondhand smoke really were the killer Mike Bloomberg insists it is, he wouldn't be mayor of New York now - he'd be pushing up daisies on the outskirts of Beantown, his hometown.

Not only did he catch other people's butts during his 60 years in this vale of tearing eyes, he was a cigarette junkie for half his life. Unlike Bill Clinton, Mike inhaled - not cigars, not pot, but real cigs.

And yet tomorrow in City Hall he will be the lead witness in his effort to persuade the City Council to prohibit smoking almost everywhere in the city. Mayor Bloomberg wants to turn us into Los Angeles East on the grounds of protecting bartenders and waiters from the evils of secondhand smoke.

I've never met a bartender or waiter who had any trouble with it, and I've covered bars from here to Cairo, and then some. There are two barmen in Gallagher's on Broadway who just made 85 - and they don't even cough.

But Bloomberg says it's so, and he cites studies that say bartenders and waiters inhale half a pack a day. Nobody has been able to find these studies, but every day Bloomberg repeats the claim on commercials paid for by the city Health Department. It's brainwashing, to be sure.

What we know from a true scientific study conducted in the United Kingdom recently is that bartenders and waiters inhale about six cigarettes a year - not half a pack a day.

There is plenty more to put the lie to this secondhand smoke madness that threatens to wipe out smoking at beaches and parks and already has done so in Yankee and Shea stadiums and the race tracks. Even God can't ventilate the outdoors, say the anti-smoke fascists. And they are winning.

Tomorrow the world?

If New York goes, yeah - you don't have to be a paranoid smoker to catch the strategy. In Nassau County on Monday, the Legislature became the first in the state to ban the weed in all bars, restaurants and bingo halls. "We're going to steamroll this downstate," said Jeffrey Toback, a Nassau legislator.

He's got Mayor Mike as pulling guard, but what Mike doesn't have is the science. Indeed, it goes the other way: For maybe the first time in history, the negative comes out a winner.

The U.S. Energy Department conducted a six-year study during the 1990s in 17 cities. Nonsmoking bartenders and waiters were wired up to determine whether secondhand smoke was a danger to their health. The result across the board: nothing, nada. The amount of smoke inhalation was way below what is considered dangerous.

And late last year, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration decided to drop plans for setting up federal rules for indoor smoking. OSHA said it was because there is no substantial evidence that secondhand smoke is harmful.

Big stuff, but I'll bet you didn't know about it, given the way the anti-smoking crowd has done the public relations job of the century to convince us all that we will die if the smokers are allowed to live.

The City Council has seemed until now uninterested in the health issue, even though it is about to inflict Prohibition Redux on our city based on health.

"It's crazy," former Mayor Rudy Giuliani told me the other day. I asked him if he'd oppose the bill. "I promise," he said. Maybe that's our shot against Mike, the CEO Rudy elected.

Zion is a cigar smoker



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: pufflist

1 posted on 10/09/2002 2:13:44 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: SheLion
ping
2 posted on 10/09/2002 2:14:09 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Cigarette nazis on the march. Film at 11.
3 posted on 10/09/2002 2:17:44 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: kattracks
The New York State Health Commissioner has an advertisement on WABC Radio where he recounts every lie you ever heard about cigarrettes. That "Big Tobacco" spends $10 Billion a year to entice new smokers, that second hand smoke is absolutely deadly, that cigarrettes are more addictive than heroin, etc. ad nauseum.

It is really embarrassing when people in responsible positions can so shamelessly spout such BS in a public forum.

4 posted on 10/09/2002 3:56:01 AM PDT by gridlock
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To: *puff_list; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; maxwell; ...

I will be back!

5 posted on 10/09/2002 4:03:37 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: kattracks
I've never met a bartender or waiter who had any trouble with it...worked as a bartender for several years, no problem with customers smoking, the drinking bothered me a little but not the smoking.
6 posted on 10/09/2002 4:17:54 AM PDT by RWG
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To: SheLion
I will be back!

. . . and I will be front !!!

Psssst. . . can I borrow a Pall Mall ???

7 posted on 10/09/2002 5:24:43 AM PDT by GeekDejure
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To: kattracks
Ping to all Floridians. This stupid idea is on the ballot November 6!!!! Before everyone chuckles and says "it's just smokers" and "it's a nasty habit anyways", just take a look at what else is being deemed "unhealthy" and new attempts are being drawn up to ban or restrict your usage by the trail lawyers and healthnazis:

1. Fast food. Commiefornia is probably going to implement a punishing tax if Grayout is re-elected, because "fast-food is so enticing to the children it causes an unhealthy lifestyle". Of course God forbid that evil term "personal responsibility" enters into the discussion.
2. Soda pop. Commiefornia has implemented a tax on this AND it's now being considered by other states as a method to raise revenue and control our sweet tooth.
3. Chocolate. The trial lawyers are already suing and you can see where this is going.
4. SUV's. Commiefornia once again leads the way with a punishing tax which will cripple SUV sales except to the wealthy Hollyweirdsocialists who could care less anyways. Once it starts there, it will spread.
5. The internet. What? Is this urban legend cropping up again? No, I wish that were the case. In Florida the demorats and some pubbies are considering charging the buyer of internet goods the sales tax they would have collected if they had purchased the goods inside of Florida. Needless to say it was shot down, but for how long as budgets are being trimmed?

This is just the tip of the iceburg. You might view this from one perspective or another as a "health" issue, but the reality is that this is a conitinuing assault on our freedoms. Lose this one and the 1st and 2nd Amendments are not far behind. The democommies and behaviorial control freaks are already working on that if you haven't noticed.
8 posted on 10/09/2002 5:32:50 AM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: GeekDejure
can I borrow a Pall Mall ???

Sorry, I don't buy cigarettes anymore. But you are welcome to one of my rolled ones! heh!


and

Smokers United

9 posted on 10/09/2002 6:29:55 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
And if Chillie Pingree beats Susan Collins in Maine, I dread the thoughts of what will happen to the smokers. Chillie was on the committee back in 1999 to go in and ban smoking in all restaurants in Maine! They did not leave it up the the owners. They just "forced" them to go smoke free, using the "It's For The Kids" spiel! ACK!

I am working hard to get the word out to Mainers. Maybe only 25-30% of Mainers smoke, but 25-30% of the votes that she won't get will be a GOOD thing. She is a little hitler in female clothing.

10 posted on 10/09/2002 6:34:20 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: kattracks
So Blooming is a liar....... what a surprise [not.]
11 posted on 10/09/2002 8:21:00 AM PDT by Great Dane
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To: SheLion
But you are welcome to one of my rolled ones! heh

Nuts !!! Stuff You Own can't duplicate Pall Mall's length. Only puny little Camels !!! ;-))

12 posted on 10/09/2002 8:41:48 AM PDT by GeekDejure
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To: GeekDejure
Nuts !!! Stuff You Own can't duplicate Pall Mall's length.

AH, but they CAN. With a Premiere Supermatic and the right tubes you can stuff 100s.

13 posted on 10/09/2002 9:04:56 AM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
Time's getting short. Support nonsmoker Wendy Stone in her effort to keep private property rights in Florida! Beware of the lies being told in the ads that insinuate this is just a "restaurant" ban; it's far more and far worse. NO AMENDMENT 6!
14 posted on 10/09/2002 12:23:12 PM PDT by Max McGarrity
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To: Just another Joe
With a Premiere Supermatic and the right tubes you can stuff 100s

What can I say??? Stuff You rOwn's email response said: "Sorry, your request for 3 1/4" Pall Mall facimilies can't be done. The 2 1/2" Camel is our longest non-filter."

15 posted on 10/09/2002 3:10:51 PM PDT by GeekDejure
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To: GeekDejure
Nuts !!! Stuff You Own can't duplicate Pall Mall's length. Only puny little Camels !!! ;-))

Listen, I smoked More Menthol 120's for years! Never thought I could ever smoke anything else! But when the state taxes took my More's up to $50 dollars a carton, you can bet the roll your owns tasted pretty damn good! heh!

And a carton for under $8.00 down from $50, I have never looked back. And the machine produces a perfect cigarette just as big as your Marlboro Lights. You must try it!


16 posted on 10/09/2002 3:30:02 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: GeekDejure
Stuff You Own can't duplicate Pall Mall's length.

Yes they can, mine makes three sizes, granted I have yet to find 100mm filters. :-}

17 posted on 10/09/2002 4:07:14 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Max McGarrity
My advocation of civil disobedience (not that "I" would ever do something like this) is to find the pro Amendment 6 signs and spray paint bright red swastikas all over them. And of course empty out the ashtray from the car in front of it too.
18 posted on 10/09/2002 6:27:15 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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