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Group Claims It Has Pictures Of Davis Taking Illegal Contribution
The Mercury News ^ | Tuesday, Oct 08, 2002 | Mercury News Wire Services

Posted on 10/08/2002 1:38:44 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:29:49 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The executive director of a law enforcement group that endorses Republican gubernatorial nominee Bill Simon said today he had two photos showing then Lt. Gov. Gray Davis accepting a campaign contribution in his state Capitol office -- in violation of the law.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; davis
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To: All
Don't say that!

That is the pic that was sent to the Simon staff that a staffer then sent to me!!!

If that pic is doctored then the Simon camp has really (once again) stepped in serious dog doo doo.

I can't believe COPS and Simon would swear this was the Gov's office if the photo was doctored??!?!?!

41 posted on 10/08/2002 2:34:51 PM PDT by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98; Ernest_at_the_Beach; daviddennis; kellynla; randita; gubamyster; ElkGroveDan
Hmmm. Should be easy enough to identify the locale....

Otherwise, picture ping at #34...

42 posted on 10/08/2002 2:35:17 PM PDT by eureka!
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To: Impeach98
Poorly-doctored photos. Won't help Simon.
43 posted on 10/08/2002 2:35:58 PM PDT by MineralMan
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To: Lichgod
If the photos aren't fake, I'll bet Davis is busy having his office and anteroom refurnished and repainted as we speak!

Leni

44 posted on 10/08/2002 2:36:15 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: paul544
Reactions will be all over the board. I wish I could say more about it, but have promised the source to keep quite. This is the first I have said anything and I have known about it for some time.
45 posted on 10/08/2002 2:36:32 PM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Coop
Picture at #34. Is it real, or is it Memorex?
46 posted on 10/08/2002 2:36:37 PM PDT by eureka!
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To: Phantom Lord
I understand. But if it is going to wait till right before the election, then it must be something bad about Dole. Dole leads and would have no reason to risk releasing anything. *Holding breath*
47 posted on 10/08/2002 2:40:14 PM PDT by paul544
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To: Impeach98
If the pictures matched exactly, I would say that someone just tried to fix the washed out background. But these are 2 different photos and I know enough about Photoshop to know that the one on top, at least, has been somehow altered. Could be real, but NO ONE will buy it once they get a close look at it. Sorry, I wish it were real.
48 posted on 10/08/2002 2:41:51 PM PDT by paul544
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To: Lichgod
Agreed, it looks faked. If it is, then somewhere there's a photo of the two identically posed against a different background. Look for it to surface pretty quickly.
49 posted on 10/08/2002 2:42:03 PM PDT by Grut
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To: Impeach98
Actually, if you save it and open in a photo editor, it looks real. Of course I have no idea about graphic arts so if someone who does would open it and give their professional opinion that would be nice.
50 posted on 10/08/2002 2:42:16 PM PDT by Lx
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To: paul544
OK - here are the pics - full size.

I am not good at graphic arts in design let alone interpretation. I have no idea how realisitic pics can be made to look.

So you all can judge for yourselves! I just can't think Simon would do something this dishonest...

and...


51 posted on 10/08/2002 2:43:14 PM PDT by Impeach98
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To: Impeach98
These are doctored. In the background, you can see the camera flash reflection but on the liberal wankers jackets, there is no hint of a flash or anything...
52 posted on 10/08/2002 2:43:59 PM PDT by smith288
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To: Impeach98
I'm not certain they are faked. They do have a little 3d-effect to them (kind of like the people are floating in front of the background.

But I've looked at the edges and I can't tell they've been faked. I'm going to pull them into a photo-editor and try to zoom in on the edges and see if I can see some clutter.

53 posted on 10/08/2002 2:47:03 PM PDT by for-q-clinton
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To: Impeach98
Those can't be doctored. In the first enlarged one, if you look at their heads, you can see tiny hairs to the left and right coming out from their heads.

Same with the beard. There's no way that would look that way if one photo had been cut out and placed on top of another.

54 posted on 10/08/2002 2:47:15 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: smith288
I don't see what you're saying. Where is the flash reflection? Should we also see it in his glasses and the windows to their left?
55 posted on 10/08/2002 2:47:56 PM PDT by Lx
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To: Impeach98
The colors just dont match. There is too much red in their faces to match the ambient light. And too much red to accurately reflect what would happen if they were hit with a flash.
56 posted on 10/08/2002 2:48:07 PM PDT by paul544
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To: BlessedBeGod
I stand corrected...after closer look, his hair is seamless in the background


57 posted on 10/08/2002 2:50:03 PM PDT by smith288
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To: fight_truth_decay
"Monty Holden, head of the California Organization of Police and Sheriffs, told reporters the Jan. 31, 1998, photos show Davis, then campaigning for his first term as governor, accepting a $10,000 check from Al Angele, then executive director of COPs.

The photos show Davis standing next to a man identified by COPS as Angele. They are holding either side of a $10,000 check as they stand in an office, that according to COPS, was the lieutenant governor's office.

The claims are ``false and possibly slanderous,'' Davis campaign press secretary Roger Salazar said. ``This charge is categorically false. No such exchange of campaign funds took place inside then Lt. Gov.'s Davis' Capitol office in Sacramento.''

Honest. I did not have money exchange with that man, Mr. Al Angele.......(check has a figerprint stain).....Indeed I did have an unappropreate relationship in the governors office..........

58 posted on 10/08/2002 2:51:21 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: smith288
Notice on the very left side of his hair in your enlargement? There is considerable blur as well.
59 posted on 10/08/2002 2:52:09 PM PDT by paul544
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To: MHGinTN
And they guy that paid the illegal contribution will go to jail, but NOT Davis. Isn't that the way it works now?
60 posted on 10/08/2002 2:53:02 PM PDT by Howlin
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