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New Frontier in Random Drug Testing: Checking High Schoolers for Tobacco
Associated Press ^ | Oct. 7, 2002 | Greg Giuffrida

Posted on 10/08/2002 4:35:09 AM PDT by Wolfie

New Frontier in Random Drug Testing: Checking High Schoolers for Tobacco

Breath mints won't cut it anymore for students who have been smoking in the bathroom -- some schools around the country are administering urine tests to teenagers to find out whether they have been using tobacco.

Opponents say such testing violates students' rights and can keep them out of the extracurricular activities they need to stay on track. But some advocates say smoking in the boys' room is a ticket to more serious drug use.

"Some addicted drug users look back to cigarettes as the start of it all," said Jeff McAlpin, director of marketing for EDPM, a Birmingham drug-testing company.

Short of catching them in the act, school officials previously had no way of proving students had been smoking.

Testing students for drugs has spread in recent years and was given a boost in June when the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed random testing of those in extracurricular activities. Tobacco can easily be added to the usual battery of tests.

"I agree with it," said 16-year-old Vestavia Hills High School junior Rosemary Stafford, a member of the marching band. "It's illegal, it's addictive. Maybe the punishment shouldn't be as severe, but they should test for it."

In Alabama, where the legal age for purchasing and smoking tobacco products is 19, about a dozen districts, mostly in the Birmingham area, test for nicotine along with alcohol and several illegal drugs, including marijuana.

In most cases, the penalties for testing positive for cotinine -- a metabolic byproduct that remains in the body after smoking or chewing tobacco -- are the same as those for illegal drugs: The student's parents are notified and he or she is usually placed on school probation and briefly suspended from sports or other activities.

Alabama's Hoover school system randomly tested 679 of its 1,500 athletes for drug use this past school year. Fourteen high school students tested positive, 12 of them for tobacco.

Elsewhere around the country, schools in Blackford County, Ind., test for tobacco use in athletes, participants in other extracurricular activities, and students who take driver's education or apply for parking permits.

In Lockney, Texas, a federal judge recently struck down the district's testing of all students for the use of drugs, alcohol and tobacco.

In Columbia County, Fla., the school board will vote Tuesday on a testing policy that would include tobacco. Teenagers who take part in extracurricular activities or apply for permits to drive to school would be screened.

"Tobacco does and will affect a larger majority of the students than alcohol or drugs," said Gloria Spizey, the county's coordinator for Safe and Drug-Free Schools. "Tobacco use can be devastating. We felt it needed to stand with the other drugs."

Screenings can detect cotinine for up to 10 days in regular smokers of about a half a pack, or 10 cigarettes, a day, McAlpin said. Experts say it is unlikely that cotinine would collect in people exposed to secondhand smoke.

"Tobacco is illegal for them to have -- it's also a health and safety issue," said Phil Hastings, supervisor of safety and alternative education for schools in Decatur, which recently adopted a testing program that includes tobacco. "We've got a responsibility to let the kids know the dangers of tobacco use."

While random drug testing overall is being fought by the American Civil Liberties Union and students' rights groups, the addition of nicotine testing has drawn little opposition.

Guidelines published last month by the White House drug office do not specifically address tobacco testing.

"On tobacco, we have the same policy as on testing for drugs -- it may not be right for every school and community," said Jennifer de Vallance, press secretary for the office. "We encourage parents and officials to assess the extent and nature of the tobacco problem."

Shawn Heller, executive director of Students for Sensible Drug Policy in Washington, said tobacco use by teen-agers is a major problem, but testing for it is just another step in the invasion of students' privacy.

"We're making schools like prisons," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
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To: Roscoe
Your bluff

No bluff; your criterion for deciding constitutionality is invalid, as even you realize when the subject is Roe v Wade.

141 posted on 10/08/2002 1:39:25 PM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: freeeee
Minors have all rights we have. They are too young to exercise them so they are held in proxy and exercised by their parents.

Their parents vote for them? Must be Democrats.

142 posted on 10/08/2002 1:39:45 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Find even one authority or court decision

Your criterion for deciding constitutionality is invalid, as even you realize when the subject is Roe v Wade.

143 posted on 10/08/2002 1:40:39 PM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: tpaine
The ninth is in plain english. ALL rights are retained by the people, enumerated or not.

That isn't what it says.

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

Find a single authority or court decision that holds that illicit drug use is an unemumerated right under the Ninth Amendment.

Just one.

144 posted on 10/08/2002 1:44:52 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Their parents vote for them? Must be Democrats.

1. The vote is recieved when the child becomes the age of majority and holds capacity. This is directly addressed in the 26th Amendment.

2. Parents are presumed to vote in their child's best interests.

None of this means that rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights do not apply to minors, when exercised through their parents.

145 posted on 10/08/2002 1:46:00 PM PDT by freeeee
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To: freeeee
Thas why I say they CAN enter into contracts legally. It is possible. But a parent can't approve of a vice for their child. They would forfiet the children.
146 posted on 10/08/2002 1:48:18 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: Roscoe
You're starting your silly nitpicking, repetitive behaviors again.
-- Keep up the good work.
147 posted on 10/08/2002 1:48:35 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Roscoe
Find a single authority or court decision

Your criterion for deciding constitutionality is invalid, as even you realize when the subject is Roe v Wade.

148 posted on 10/08/2002 1:48:44 PM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: A CA Guy
But a parent can't approve of a vice for their child. They would forfiet the children.

Agreed. But they can assert 4th Amendment rights for the child. A public school can ask a parent to search a child. The parent can consent to the search or reject the request, regardless of what the child wants.

If the parent asserts the child's 4th Amendment rights, the school, being a government agency is bound by the 4th Amendment's requirement for probable cause and a warrant.

149 posted on 10/08/2002 1:52:29 PM PDT by freeeee
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To: MrLeRoy
Really? Rehnquist wrote a superb dissent.
150 posted on 10/08/2002 1:52:45 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: TheOtherOne
Another day, another couple Freedoms gone.

If you choose to put your children in socialist, state-run institutions, you must accept the consequences that has to their freedoms and yours.

151 posted on 10/08/2002 1:53:48 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: freeeee
1. The vote is recieved when the child becomes the age of majority and holds capacity. This is directly addressed in the 26th Amendment.

Non sequitur.

152 posted on 10/08/2002 1:54:03 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Rehnquist wrote a superb dissent.

Ah, so dissenting opinions count as "authority"? Works for me. By the same token, majority opinions that were later overturned would have to count as "authority." Let's see what we can find ....

153 posted on 10/08/2002 1:56:27 PM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: MrLeRoy
 "Your criterion for deciding constitutionality is invalid, as even you realize when the subject is Roe v Wade." - MrLR
_________________________________

Exactly. - Notice how roscoe could not counter my reasoning here:

Posted by tpaine to Roscoe
On News/Activism Oct 8 12:55 PM #126 of 148

"Roe v. Wade invented a "Constitional right" to commit abortions out of thin air." - roscoe


Not at all. R-v-W, in effect, told states to obey the 14th amendment in the writing of abortion law.
Outright prohibition of abortion was declared unconstitutional for a number of specified reasons. - Read it.

154 posted on 10/08/2002 1:56:48 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: SheLion
Bump!
155 posted on 10/08/2002 1:57:04 PM PDT by Fraulein
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To: Roscoe
Non sequitur.

You brought up the topic of the vote, and the conversation involves constitutional rights of minors.

156 posted on 10/08/2002 1:58:37 PM PDT by freeeee
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To: freeeee
You brought up the topic of the vote

Right. Kids don't have a right to vote.

157 posted on 10/08/2002 2:00:05 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: MrLeRoy
Ah, so dissenting opinions count as "authority"?

The Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court isn't an authority?

Let's see what we can find ....

Please do. It would be novel to see you bring something to the table.

158 posted on 10/08/2002 2:02:57 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Kids don't have a right to vote.

As directly addressed by an amendment.

Now, to get back on topic, find me the one that says that they have to be 18 to assert 4th Amendment rights (or anything else in the Bill of Rights) through their legal proxies.

159 posted on 10/08/2002 2:06:47 PM PDT by freeeee
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To: freeeee
As directly addressed by an amendment.

Even before the "amendment."

160 posted on 10/08/2002 2:10:10 PM PDT by Roscoe
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