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CONSPIRACY: The Okla. City-Sept. 11 Connection
Philadelphia Daily News ^ | Oct. 03, 2002 | Michael Smerconish

Posted on 10/04/2002 6:16:46 PM PDT by FreeperinRATcage

I'M NOT A conspiracy guy. I think Oswald killed Kennedy, and that he acted alone. And, like all Americans, I figured that the tragic bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City was the work of two sick ex-Army guys, Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols.

Now I'm not so sure.

Last night, my radio station, the Big Talker 1210, brought three speakers to town for a remarkable presentation: Jayna Davis, a reporter from Oklahoma City; Larry Johnson, ex-deputy director of the State Department's office of counterterrorism, and Patrick Lang, Mideast expert formerly of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

In a spellbinding presentation, they made the case for a connection between Mideast terrorism, the Murrah bombing - and the attacks on the Twin Towers.

Now I know why former CIA Director James Woolsey has been quoted as saying that when the full truth is known about these acts of terrorism, the nation will owe Davis "a debt of gratitude."

Why her name is not already a household word is the greatest mystery of all. Just this week, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said that U.S. intelligence has "bulletproof" evidence of links between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein. Rumsfeld didn't offer specifics. But here is what we know from the work of Davis.

When the Murrah bombing occurred at 9:02 a.m. on April 19, 1995, Davis was a reporter for the NBC affiliate in Oklahoma City. She was among the first journalists to broadcast that an enormous truck bomb had rocked the heartland, killing 168 and injuring hundreds.

In the immediate aftermath of the explosion, the FBI launched an international pursuit of several Middle Eastern-looking men seen fleeing the Murrah Building in a brown Chevy pickup right before the blast. Without explanation, that all-points bulletin was later canceled. Two days later, Timothy McVeigh was a household name. So was Terry Nichols.

And that's where most of us left the tale. Stunned, but convinced that two Army buddies, homegrown terrorists, acted alone.

Thankfully, Davis didn't close this book as quickly as most of us did. She pursued the APB and set off to track reports of multiple sightings of McVeigh with an elusive dark-haired accomplice. The infamous sketch of John Doe No. 2 was always tucked firmly in her grip.

Davis soon uncovered that several employees at an Oklahoma City property- management company said they had seen a brown Chevy truck like the getaway vehicle aggressively pursued by law enforcement parked outside their office in the days before the bombing. The company's owner was a Palestinian with a rap sheet and suspected ties to the PLO.

Davis learned that, six months before the bombing, the Palestinian hired a handful of ex-Iraqi soldiers to do maintenance at his rental houses. Eyewitnesses told Davis that they celebrated the bombing.

She was also made aware that these same men were absent from work on April 17, 1995, the day McVeigh rented the Ryder truck that carried the bomb.

While pursuing the story of these Middle Eastern men, Davis also became aware of another ex-Iraqi soldier in Oklahoma City named Hussain Hashem Al-Hussaini. She was taken aback to see that Al-Hussaini's picture, when overlaid with the government sketch of John Doe No. 2, was arguably a perfect match. He even sported a tattoo on his upper left arm indicating that he likely had served in Saddam Hussein's Republican Guard.

Davis then set about looking for a connection to McVeigh, Nichols, Al-Hussaini and other Iraqis. It came when a colleague located two eyewitnesses who claimed to have independently seen Al-Hussaini drinking beer with McVeigh in an Oklahoma City nightclub just four days before the bombing.

This convinced her station to run with the Iraqi-connection story. It was met with some controversy.

The Justice Department responded that the identification of John Doe No. 2 was merely a case of mistaken identity. Al-Hussaini contacted local reporters, claiming to be falsely accused. Davis did not back off because she believed she could repudiate Al-Hussaini's alibi.

AND SHE LOCATED two dozen witnesses who identified eight specific Middle Eastern men, the majority of whom were ex-Iraqi soldiers, who were seen with McVeigh and Nichols. Two witnesses named Al-Hussaini as the dark-haired, olive-skinned man they observed one block from the Murrah Building just before daybreak on the day of the blast.

She also uncovered evidence that implicated several of Al-Hussaini's co-workers. One of these men was identified as sitting in the driver's seat of a Chevy pickup at an Oklahoma City apartment complex hours before the truck was abandoned on the lot and towed to the FBI command post. According to police records, the truck had been stripped of its vehicle identification numbers and identifying body molding.

The story gathered steam. Here, it would appear, was the deserted pickup that was the same vehicle that was seen speeding away from the vicinity of the Murrah building with two Arab-looking occupants.

And there was more. Five witnesses independently fingered several of Al-Hussaini's associates as frequent visitors to an Oklahoma City motel in the months, days, and hours leading up to 9:02 a.m. on April 19. On numerous occasions, the subjects were seen in the company of McVeigh, and during a few instances, associating with Nichols - at the same motel!

Davis spoke to the motel owner and a maintenance worker who said the men came within feet of a large Ryder truck parked on the west side of the parking lot at 7:40 a.m. on April 19. An unexplained odor of diesel fuel emanated from the rear carriage. Minutes later, McVeigh entered the motel office and returned the room key. The motel owner then saw McVeigh drive off the lot with a man identified as Al-Hussaini.

To this day, the Justice Department has refused to return the original registration logs for the motel.

Davis has 80 pages of affidavits and 2,000 supporting documents, and they suggest not only an Iraqi connection to the Murrah bombing, but also to the attacks against the Twin Towers.

For example, Nichols was a man of modest means. Yet he traveled frequently to the Philippines. Davis discovered that Nichols was there, in Cebu City in December 1994, at the same time as the convicted mastermind of the first World Trade Center attack, Ramzi Yousef.

She has also found evidence that Islamic terrorists boasted of having recruited two "lily whites" for terrorism.

Al-Hussaini had a very American response to Davis' investigation. He sued for defamation. In a ruling on Nov. 17, 1999, federal Judge Timothy Leonard dismissed the case.

In 1995, the federal grand jury proclaimed in the official indictment that McVeigh and Nichols acted with "others unknown." And several members of the Denver juries who convicted the two said publicly that they thought they had help.

Since 1997, Davis has repeatedly tried to interest the FBI in her investigation. She has been rebuffed.

As for Al-Hussaini, after leaving Oklahoma City, he went on to work at Boston's Logan International Airport, the point of origin for several for the 9/11 hijackers, including Mohammad Atta.

One more thing. That motel where McVeigh, Nichols and Al-Hussaini were seen together was later visited (pre-9/11) by Atta, Zacharias Moussaouy and Marwan Al-Shehi.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fbi; iraq; jaynadavis; okcbombing; oklahoma; smerconish; terror
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To: weikel
Re Post #9: Thanks, gitmo, for the links to the OKBIC website. I notice that OKBIC has done a very nice redesign of the site since I last visited it...

weikel wrote "I don't think the buildings blast damage is consistent with the official explanation."

Nor do I -- see pp 191 - 256 0f the OKBIC Final Report.

TXnMA (No Longer!!!)

21 posted on 10/04/2002 7:57:25 PM PDT by TXnMA
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To: Cicero
So what are you saying? Are you saying the first WTC bombing was a Clinton operation- or done by our own government? I have never known you to be a tin foil hat guy. What am I missing?
22 posted on 10/04/2002 8:00:40 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: TXnMA
Don't need to read something that lengthy it takes a lot of Newtons of force suddenly applied to do that kinda of damage. A fertilizer bomb from the exterior parking lot just wouldn't do it.
23 posted on 10/04/2002 8:00:54 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Burkeman1
You don't have to be tinfoil just think about the physics of the blast. Could a fertilizer bomb from the parking lot( given the size of the bomb and distance from the building) have caused such extensive damage to reinforced concrete?
24 posted on 10/04/2002 8:03:51 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Kennedy assasination stuff is no good even for entertainment value the various conspiracy theories cancel each other out. The stuff about shapeshifting reptilian human hybrids controlling the world makes more sense than just about every Kennedy assasination theory there is.
25 posted on 10/04/2002 8:09:56 PM PDT by weikel
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To: gitmo
Thanks! See my post #21 -- and you've got FReepMail...

TXnMA (No Longer!!!)

26 posted on 10/04/2002 8:12:33 PM PDT by TXnMA
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To: weikel
I am sorry- I don't doubt what you are saying. But who was behind it then? What is Cicero saying?
27 posted on 10/04/2002 8:18:11 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: Burkeman1
Who knows whos behind it although I suspect Reno was deeply involved.
28 posted on 10/04/2002 8:21:32 PM PDT by weikel
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To: FreeperinRATcage
The Kennedy wackiness aside, Specter wouldn't touch this if he didn't think it had some merit.

Specter wouldn't touch it if he didn't think there was something in it for him. He apparently recognizes that times have changed.

Which doesn't necessarily mean that the conspiracy theories about OKC are incorrect. Myself, I believe those conspiracy theories.

And if Specter's shift indicates that a power shift may now lead to the revelation of previously concealed truths, we may soon find out a lot that has been kept hidden from us.

29 posted on 10/04/2002 8:29:38 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: FreeperinRATcage
As much as I hate Clinton, I never believed he would sink so low as to cover the possibility of Middle-Eastern terrorists having a part in the OKC bombing. Now, it is beginning to appear that even in this most tragic event of his watch, he lied and used the situation for his own political gain.

WFTR
Bill

30 posted on 10/04/2002 8:34:56 PM PDT by WFTR
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To: FreeperinRATcage
Oh sure... He'll investigate and then have a Senate trial under Scottish Law! Ha Ha Ha Ha Haaaaaaaaaaaa!

That Democrat lawyer for the house impeachment whose good name escapes me right now has been helping her a lot lately. (David Schippers, that's it!)

31 posted on 10/04/2002 8:36:17 PM PDT by SierraWasp
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To: weikel
Don't need to read something that lengthy it takes a lot of Newtons of force suddenly applied to do that kinda of damage. A fertilizer bomb from the exterior parking lot just wouldn't do it.

Actually, the truck was parked in the street (in a curb cut) immediately in front of the building. (That's where the crater was.)

Nonetheless, the center of the crater was 16.4 ft from the closest column -- G20(A5) -- well beyond the demonstrated brisant radius. And the localized damage done to column G16(A7) and the associated section of 3rd floor transfer beam -- over 50 feet away (with no intervening damage to the beam) -- is totally inconsistent with air blast.

Exterior parking lot? A little reading might not hurt...;-}

TXnMA (No Longer)

32 posted on 10/04/2002 8:39:13 PM PDT by TXnMA
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To: FreeperinRATcage
Good grief. Don't be ridiculous. Specter is not to trusted with anything.
33 posted on 10/04/2002 8:39:19 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: savedbygrace
Bump, to have a link in my files
34 posted on 10/04/2002 8:42:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Burkeman1
"McVeigh's execution was in record time and that alone makes me suspicious."

To say nothing of the MAD RUSH to BURY all the evidence by razing and bulldozing the site!!!

Just like Osama, Saddam smote the USA using our own resources!

Clinton didn't want to deal with foreign terrorist in addition to Gingrich, Rush, the 1994 landslide to conservatives, even Christian fundamentalist ones at that!

He was in such deep doodoo that his Presidency was in danger and this was just too easy to spin just the right way for his political salvation! He gained the whole world, but lost his own soul and hurt the soul of America!!!

35 posted on 10/04/2002 8:50:14 PM PDT by SierraWasp
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To: TXnMA
the truck was parked in the street

This isn't connected but the company I worked for on 9/11 had a van parked below the first tower when it was hit. One of our guys was up there and he died that day. Our guy in the van saw jumpers hit the ground and his van was pelted with debris. Weird. Still gets to me.

36 posted on 10/04/2002 8:51:53 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: SierraWasp
Damn- I will give you that and I am opposed to the war against Iraq. Clinton is that much of a scumbag to blame it on "domestic right wing lunatics" and cover up foreign connections for his own advantage. I have no problem seeing that at all. Just want Bush to show me. But that would mean hurting the entire beltway and Bush would be dead in the water.
37 posted on 10/04/2002 8:55:36 PM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: Burkeman1
Iraq is not our real enemy but it is between our real enemies( Saudi Arabia and Iran). So Ive come to the conclusion thats why they are going before the Saudis.
38 posted on 10/04/2002 9:19:23 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Burkeman1
Whiel yoe are entitled to your skepticism, I find the OKC-ALQ link to be credible. I also find the WTC-ALQ link to be credible. And, the USS Cole/ALQ link.

Actually, I would be shocked to learn there is no ANTHRAX-ALQ link.

Because: 1) it happened too fast after 9-11 )two days later). 2) no one took creidt--why do it if you aren't going make headlines 3) it was too crude, 4) AlQ already showed (crop-dusters, etal.) that they were considering use of bio-weapons....

39 posted on 10/04/2002 9:35:50 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: Antoninus
Next time try something a tad more relevent in the keywords and I'd have found it :)
40 posted on 10/04/2002 9:37:30 PM PDT by FreeperinRATcage
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