Bill Aims to Ban Workplace Smoking

Newsday | 9/17/02 | J. Palmer

[metesky]

But they can NOT attack my face.

I wouldn't touch that line with a ten foot pole.

Or two five foot Germans.

[SheLion]

This account has been banned.

Well, if he was using daddy's computer and daddy's name, he might be in for it.

There is no reason to attack someone in here like that. Come after me with something we can discuss. Personal attacks are never good.

[SheLion]

You know, metesky, if that was the best he could do in our debate, then that's the best he has. And it wasn't much!

Personal attacks instead of a debate on the issue means that they have reached the end of their knowledge. How's that!

[SheLion]

Heh!

[Gabz]

It's rather difficult to prove a negative.

[Mr_Mayor]

Oh really! Lets just ban smoking and tobacco completely. That way the feds could just raise your taxes to make up the difference in monies they would lose. Also, they would raise your taxes since people would live longer and bleed the system dry as they get sick and older too. I smoke and if you do not like it "tuff" sh*t! I will smoke where i want to and there is not a whole lot anyone can do about it because if you complain ya just might find a fist or 357 shoved up yer nose. Sorry but it is time the smokers smoke where ever we want and tell the so called self rightous non smokers to shove it. I'm telling ya make them illegal. I can then sell them under the table make millions and watch the feds raise your taxes. It does cost more to take care of an old person for 20 years than it does for them to pay for the cancer i might get. I bet you ride a bike to work too. If you do look out i might run you into the gutter next time i see you.! HA HA HA what a dufuss! smoke this schuck

[Mr_Mayor]

yeah, they lied. plain and simple they lied!

[ninenot]

Well, if it isn't Mr. Gummint Man--back for a new flame war.

Actually, since tobacco is a legal product, smokers DO have the RIGHT to smoke in public.

However, it may be controlled on private property. SInce you likely do not allow it in your home, please do not invite me to come over and visit.

I will gladly honor your dis-invitation.

It is unfortunate that elected officials find it necessary to interpose their good intentions into an otherwise useful function.

Perhaps these nosy Rosies will drop dead.

[Khepera]

The government is not "The people" unless you live in China. The bill of rights mentions the government and also the people as being two separate things.

[SheLion]

yeah, they lied. plain and simple they lied!

I thought bubba was at work! You sound just like my hubby! heh!

[metesky]

Welcome to Free Republic!

That said, did you check the live links in the post to which you replied? The one leading to the Oak Ridge National Lab study is what you're looking for.

I hope your stay here is long, fruitful and educational.

[ohioman]

Where have you been. In most cases, it is the government telling the PRIVATE business owners that there will be no smoking in their establishment. I wish like hell that they would leave it up to the private business owners. I am all for that. But you know what, the smoke nazis will never agree with that. They can all burn (or smoke) in hell for all I care.

[kcpopps]

Smoking benefits no one.

Yes it does. It benefits it's biggest stockholder - the Government

[Madame Dufarge]

You have no "right" to smoke in public, any more than you have a "right" to urinate in public.

Could you help me out here, Illbay.

I got this from a link you had posted on your profile page.

How would you say "private property" is defined in the following?

We believe that no government can exist in peace, except such laws are framed and held inviolate as will secure to each individual the free exercise of conscience, the right and control of property, and the protection of life.

[Badray]

" Where have you been?"

Did I mistype something? We are on the same side. I'm saying that the rights of the property are the most important. The government has no business butting in, if you'll excuse the pun.

[Great Dane]

What I envision is a bar/restaurant suddenly becoming a members-only establishment. For a nominal fee ($5 a year?), a person could become a member. The membership agreement would include the fact that smoking would be allowed. Seems to me that such a place would do huge business.

They tried that here in Ottawa, got shut down by the court.

but our golf club houses has smoking rooms, as does the elite snob appeal places, some people are more equal than others.

[Great Dane]

How do YOU spell S-E-L-F-I-S-H?

Heck, you don't have to be able to spell, just look in the mirror.

[Great Dane]

I don't get to walk outside and just bullshit for 10 minutes with friends. Just because they smoke, they get these built-in breaks. Very annoying.

If they hadn't banned smoking everywhere, this would not be an issue.

[Great Dane]

Have you been hiding under a rock????

No, but you obviously have, the rock of fanatics.