NYC SMOKING BAN BILL

NYC C.L.A.S.H. ^ | September 8, 2002 | Sam Stewart

[Max McGarrity]

I finally got a look at Bloomberg's actual smoking ban bill. Get this: It not only prohibits smoking in ANY indoor workplace, it also prohibit smoking in all parts of an airport, on piers, on wharves and--gotta love it-- any ship docked in NY.

The first hearing before the City Council Health Committee is Oct 10, 1 PM, Council Chambers, City Hall. Warm bodies requested.--Warm bodies in the mood to start busting junkscience can sign up to speak.

Sample of the junksci in letter from Hizzoner:

"Well-documented studies have proven the devastating effects of second-hand smoke. Employees in bars and in restaurants where smoking is permitted have a 50% higher risk of lung cancer than other workers, even after taking their own smoking habits into account. Working one eight-hour shift in a smoky bar exposes one to the same amount of carcinogens as smoking half a pack of cigarettes a day."

Part one is clearly based on Siegel's piece of 1993 baloney-- including his press release use of "devastating." Siegel used underlying studies which did NOT account for smoking-- or most other factors.

Origins of 1/2 pack stat unknown, but using NRC,DHHS and EPA's own figures, that would mean from 1000 to 10,000 cigarettes are being smoked in a poorly-ventilated bar to reach that level. Dept. of Energy studies--monitored studies--say SIX cigarettes a year with normal ventilation.

New Yorkers worthy of the title, whether they smoke or don't, will let their voices be heard about this attempt to engineer their society. THIS IS NEW YORK CITY, NOT BANBERG!

If you haven't signed the petition, pick one up at NYC C.L.A.S.H. and get involved!

[KS Flyover]

LOL   Don't be too hard on yourself. From what I can tell from doing a little searching around, they were using both domain names. But only the one I posted above seems to work now.

[Great Dane]

37 to 34..... you're kidding, of course some of them might be old flamers, with new names. :-}

[SheLion]

37 to 34..... you're kidding, of course some of them might be old flamers, with new names. :-}

Never know! If there are 200 on the Puff_List, I sure am missing a lot. But no one came to me other then the ones I have, to be added. Maybe most of them just want to be apart of the Free Republic Smokers' Lounge. All of the threads are posted there anyway, so people won't miss anything when they catch Just Another Joe's Smoking Lounge Threads each week.

[Great Dane]

#23........ I would ask, I'm sure people such as maxwell would want to be on the puff list.

[Great Dane]

is equivalent to "smoking a pack or two of cigarettes, involuntarily."

Everytime an ANTI opens his/her mouth, the numbers increase, same with the body count.

[SheLion]

........ I would ask, I'm sure people such as maxwell would want to be on the puff list.

Oh! I have maxwell. For sure.

[altair]

"Well-documented studies have proven the devastating effects of second-hand smoke. Employees in bars and in restaurants where smoking is permitted have a 50% higher risk of lung cancer than other workers, even after taking their own smoking habits into account. Working one eight-hour shift in a smoky bar exposes one to the same amount of carcinogens as smoking half a pack of cigarettes a day."

I love the smell of junk science in the morning.

[Max McGarrity]

As I understand the ping lists like the puff_list, SheLion, just typing in "puff_list" in the "To:" field will ping all those 200 plus folks. francisandbeans started it, I think Joe inherited it, and I have a copy that's not up to date but when necessary, I still put all the names I have in the box. I try to save it for really important, can't miss stuff, tho, figuring they get pinged anyway and I don't want to wear the good guys out.

[SheLion]

Here is how I type in the Puff_List:

*Puff_List; Just another Joe; Gabz; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; red-dawg; RikaStrom;maxwell;Madame Dufarge; MeeknMing;red-dawg;robomatik;steve50;KS Flyover;metesky; Cantiloper;Waskishi;I'm_With_Orwell;jumpstartme;dix;Sir Charles; Salem;yoe;Bahbah;Capt_Hank;Pistacio;kattracks;altair;Libertarianize the GOP;Khepera;Freemeorkillme;kattracks;Jaidyn;NYCVirago

So, hopefully, but starting the list off with *Puff_List, that might cover everyone. I hope so. :)