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Why the Pessimism on Front-runner Bill Simon?
NewsMax ^ | 8/10/02 | Limbacher

Posted on 08/10/2002 9:50:50 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

You may have noticed that there's something missing from the recent spate of reports predicting that California Republican Bill Simon doesn't stand a chance against incumbent Democrat Governor Gray Davis.

That something would be any actual polling data to support the conclusion.

In fact, though one media wag after another has stepped forward in recent days to pronounce Simon a political dead duck, the California conservative actually leads his left-wing opponent in the only survey released within the last two weeks.

That's right. Though the California press has buried the news so thoroughly that most of the state's voters are unaware of it, a Survey USA poll commissioned by several California network TV affiliates has Simon leading Davis 46 to 45 percent.

Not bad for a guy whose campaign is supposed to be toast.

Still, the good news didn't do much to quell critics who inexplicably maintain Simon doesn't have a prayer. Here's how the San Francisco Chronicle's Debra Saunders reacted after the Republican's lead was reported in the Washington Times.

"Bill Simon should just give up. He's a lousy candidate. He should admit it, bow out of the race, then endorse a good Republican -- Secretary of State Bill Jones -- who has a shot at beating the otherwise-vulnerable Gray Davis."

Surely, with all the pessimism on Simon's chances, there must be other polls showing Davis trouncing him.

Well, try as we might, we can't find any.

And apparently, neither could the Simon-doom-and-gloomers at the New York Times, who admitted on Saturday that an earlier survey by California's best known polling operation, Mervyn Field, showed the GOP candidate chopping Davis' lead in half within the last four months.

And that's not all.

In June, a survey by the Public Policy Institute showed Davis with a sky-high negative job approval ratings of 52 percent. Only 39 percent, noted the Times, approved of Davis' performance in office.

(Buried in a July 28 Los Angeles Times report on the California governor's poll numbers, the paper noted that only 30 percent gave him a favorable job approval rating, putting Davis in the same polling territory as Richard Nixon just before he was forced to resign over Watergate.)

So how did the New York Times headline all this good news for the Simon campaign?


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: billsimon; calgov2002
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1 posted on 08/10/2002 9:50:50 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Surely, with all the pessimism on Simon's chances, there must be other polls showing Davis trouncing him.

Well, try as we might, we can't find any.


:-D
DUMP DAVI$ & the Den of Socialists

GO SIMON

2 posted on 08/10/2002 9:59:02 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Simon is toast.

Illegal aliens are voting.

Stick a fork in him; he's done.

3 posted on 08/10/2002 10:38:59 AM PDT by boris
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Is anyone else running for gov. besides Simon?
4 posted on 08/10/2002 10:42:41 AM PDT by TheDon
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Good post. I recall an old bumper sticker: "Don't believe the liberal media."
5 posted on 08/10/2002 10:47:09 AM PDT by NEWwoman
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To: NormsRevenge
In all fairness Norm:

1) The lack of a public campaign.

2) General lack of public knowledge of his credentials, his principals and his goals (except those twisted negatives touted by the Davis campaign and the mainstream media).

3) His public speaking ability.

4) The vague recollection of the families' failures in previous attempts at public office.

4) An almost embarrassasing lack of public support from those nationaly elected members of his own party.

Simon may win but if he does it will not be due to the efforts he has displayed thus far.

It is now almost mid August and the political landscape has remained unchanged ... only Davis can defeat Davis.

6 posted on 08/10/2002 10:50:56 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Why all the pessimism? Because some people have a clue. The $78 million fraud verdict was the coup d'grace, even if the punitive damages award is reduced.
7 posted on 08/10/2002 10:59:47 AM PDT by Thud
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I'll say it again: I don't even want Simon to win.

If he wins, he has to deal with a great variety of very serious problems that will be left to him by the Davis "administration" or, as I like to call it, "the unamusing California clown show". Problems like the huge state budget deficit, the massive, all-consuming wave of illegal immigrants whose dependence on and demand for state services is causing said deficit, etc.

He will be shackled in his efforts to actually do anything about these problems by the fact that the population of California is just to the left of Mao and has all the courage and moral clarity of Vidkun Quisling. Any attempt to address the real and serious problem of immigration in this "state" will be met with howls of "racism" and "hate" that Simon, being a Republican, will buckle to and grovel.

In all this buckling and grovelling nothing will get done, and when California finally collapses it will be Simon's "fault" because "he's the governor."

Let Davis win. Let California fall to those who want something for nothing and those who want to give it to them. Let it become the cesspit it's straining for, a muddy example for the whole world about the dangers of overregulation and cowardly, path-of-least-resistance politicians. Then let it fall into the ocean.

8 posted on 08/10/2002 11:21:19 AM PDT by Jonathon Spectre
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To: Jonathon Spectre
Oh yeah. THAT'S the spirit. Surrender. Whatever.

"Bill Simon should just give up. He's a lousy candidate. He should admit it, bow out of the race, then endorse a good Republican -- Secretary of State Bill Jones -- who has a shot at beating the otherwise-vulnerable Gray Davis."


A shot at what with the election only 3 months away? Oh yeah, I'm sure this advice is coming from the bottom of their hearts. Please.
9 posted on 08/10/2002 11:27:14 AM PDT by Green Knight
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To: *calgov2002; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Index Bump
10 posted on 08/10/2002 11:32:44 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Bill Simon should just give up. He's a lousy candidate. He should admit it, bow out of the race, then endorse a good Republican -- Secretary of State Bill Jones -- who has a shot at beating the otherwise-vulnerable Gray Davis."

I thought Jones had already been eliminated in the Primary...

11 posted on 08/10/2002 11:40:35 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Amerigomag
...only Davis can defeat Davis.

From here it looks like he's doing very well at that! (defeating himself)

12 posted on 08/10/2002 11:43:01 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Amerigomag
It is now almost mid August and the political landscape has remained unchanged ... only Davis can defeat Davis.

I disagree.I think the landscape has changed tremendously. The debates will be the defining moment for Simon. All this other stuff has been foreplay.

Yes, Davi$ is still his own worse opponent. How will he snatch victory from the jaws of defeat? Im almost breathless waiting. :-)
13 posted on 08/10/2002 12:09:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: boris
Simon's only chance is if the Mexican people aren't that interested in the election.
14 posted on 08/10/2002 12:12:16 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Make sure to leave no Hispanic uninsulted. Otherwise, they might vote Republican and hurt the argument for an Iron Curtain across Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California and full deployment of the Navy and Coast Guard with gns blazing on every inch of Gulf and Pacific Coast.

How can someone distinguish between your post and examples of gratuitous and unnecessary insult?

15 posted on 08/10/2002 12:47:53 PM PDT by BlackElk
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To: boris
#15 to FITZ goes for you too.
16 posted on 08/10/2002 12:49:17 PM PDT by BlackElk
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To: BlackElk
I didn't refer to American Hispanics. I never consider them to be Mexican citizens.
17 posted on 08/10/2002 12:56:19 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: BlackElk
American Hispanics voted for Reagan in fairly large numbers but people who lump the so-called Hispanic vote together tend to include long-time Americans of the SW in with the newcomers from Mexico ---they really aren't quite the same. Lumping them together makes it look like the Hispanics are becoming more democrat in the way they vote but if you separate the immigrant from the non-immigrant Hispanics you probably wouldn't find that to be the case.
18 posted on 08/10/2002 1:00:56 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Conservatives are our own worst enemy. Next to the RINO backstabbers who usually are the first to desert our candidate at the first sign of trouble. Do the Rats do it to their own? Have they deserted GrayDown? We could use a lesson in sticking by our party from yes our liberal adversaries. The liberals don't give up when the odds are against them. We should learn to buckle up and ride onto the finish line with all guns blazing. We may or may not win but hard work is its own reward.
19 posted on 08/10/2002 1:07:17 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
We should learn to buckle up and ride onto the finish line with all guns blazing.

I'm not in California but I'm glad to see Perry in Texas is starting to fight back against his nothing-but-negative-ads liberal opponent. Republicans need to fight fire with fire and also see how certain groups of people are being manipulated by the democrats --including illegals and try to grab away at least some of their votes.

20 posted on 08/10/2002 1:10:55 PM PDT by FITZ
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