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Bloomberg Seeks to Ban Smoking in Every Restaurant and Bar
The New York Times ^ | August 9, 2002 | JENNIFER STEINHAUER

Posted on 08/09/2002 1:47:28 AM PDT by sarcasm

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Next step - banning alcohol in restaurants and bars.
1 posted on 08/09/2002 1:47:28 AM PDT by sarcasm
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Then they can move on to fatty foods and anything with meat in it.

New Yorkers will be forced to consume nothing but carrot sticks and anyone found with a french fry will be shot.
2 posted on 08/09/2002 1:57:54 AM PDT by Ronin
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The final step - a mandatory all tofu diet.
3 posted on 08/09/2002 2:13:19 AM PDT by sarcasm
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Then being herded into exercise pens for calisthenics.
4 posted on 08/09/2002 2:34:59 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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Gee...yet another so-called "Conservative" who thinks he has the right to legislate what people put into their own bodies.

Friggin' Socialist...
5 posted on 08/09/2002 3:13:16 AM PDT by WyldKard
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If I were a smoker, I'd make it a point to buy my cigarettes from an illegal source, not just to save money, but so that the government would NOT be getting any extra tax dollars from me!

I was thrilled to hear that the number of crimes related to cigarettes was up! Maybe this will start to register on the minds of the politicians: Prohibition, or prohibitively high taxes, leads to a profit motive, and when that motive is high enough, leads to crime!

Mark
6 posted on 08/09/2002 3:16:38 AM PDT by MarkL
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That "clymer" Bloomberg is not a conservative. He's an opportunistic Dem who ran on the Repub line.
7 posted on 08/09/2002 3:19:16 AM PDT by Bill S
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Bloomberg is NOT a conservative. He is a DemoRat that ran
on the Republican ticket, once in office he put all his RATS
in office. Bloomberg is not happy that crime is down in NY.
Since Bloomberg got elected Crime is up and his cigarette
laws are now causing more crime in NY. Bloomberg has lived
on get rich schemes all his life. Bloomberg is looking to
make Millions in Payoffs from tobacco co's and if they don't
dish out the cash than he will keep right on raising tobacco
prices. Bloomberg belongs in jail for election fraud, he's
a Demorat that is giving the conservatives a bad rap.
One thing about NY they don't have the guts to stand up and
fight back. Signs were everywhere for Hillary to get out of
NY but jet she holds the NY Senate seat. Election fraud in
NY is a way of life for the DemoRats. New Yorkers are forced
to shop in other states because of high taxes. Bloomberg
and the rest of his Rats only want the RICH in NY.
8 posted on 08/09/2002 3:37:05 AM PDT by rebapiper
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Yay! A Republican is in office!
9 posted on 08/09/2002 3:41:24 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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"From every mountainside
Let Freedom ring!"

- incomprehensible lines from a long forgotten song.

10 posted on 08/09/2002 3:45:20 AM PDT by wotan
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"The mayor will push this," one administration official said, "for all the same reasons he pushed the cigarette tax. He makes changes to things that he thinks are important."

I'm very happy to learn that New York has already solved the problems of high taxes, street crime, poverty, unemployment, social dysfunction, etc.

11 posted on 08/09/2002 3:46:00 AM PDT by maryz
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Is this guy dumb or is he sanity impaired?

First, he raises the tax on cigarette so that virtually every smoker in the city will find an outside source for their tobacco. That means people who are in the city from elsewhere and out on the town will be the ones stuck paying the tax. Meanwhile small-store owners lose their revenue from people not just buying cigarettes, but the other things they'd purchase at the same time.

So, now he wants to ban smoking. That means smokers won't go to NYC for a leisurely dinner. Less revenue for everyone. Less tips, less alcohol and dinner taxes, less business for bars and restaurants.

He'll ruin a city's recovery because he has a bad attitude about smokers? Don't these PC Nazis see anything beyond their own selfish views?

12 posted on 08/09/2002 3:49:48 AM PDT by grania
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largely because local legislatures are less vulnerable to the powerful tobacco industry lobby.

Come again?!! "The powerful tobacco industry lobby"? How about the powerful health-Nazi lobby, which seems to be scoring all the points?

13 posted on 08/09/2002 3:50:47 AM PDT by maryz
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How can you ever have a smoke free environment in Manhattan as long as taxis, trucks and buses are allowed to roll around?
14 posted on 08/09/2002 3:52:34 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Next step, banning smoking in your house. This is out of bound jurisdiction by the fascist mayor.
15 posted on 08/09/2002 3:56:48 AM PDT by lavaroise
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You know that fatty foods are actualy a must for some diets and these attacks on burgers are even more ridiculous from that standpoint. But this jurisdiction encroachment by Bloomberg starts to make me understand why we have the 2nd amendment and why I am thinking about starting smoking though I hate smoking. I dare these people go on private turf and clubs.
16 posted on 08/09/2002 3:59:08 AM PDT by lavaroise
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A super strict anti-smoking ordinance, the strictest in the state, was passed in June here in Helena, MT... The next thing we'll see these zealots come after is our barbeques, weed trimmers, leaf blowers, and lawn mowers. I believe these nazis won't stop until they can regulate human flatuence. Imagine that, flatuence police...
17 posted on 08/09/2002 4:06:22 AM PDT by gatorgriz
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The mania for giving the Government power to meddle with the private affairs of cities or citizens is likely to cause endless trouble, through the rivaly of schools and creeds that are anxious to obtain official recognition, and there is great danger that our people will lose our independence of thought and action which is the cause of much of our greatness, and sink into the helplessness of the Frenchman or German who expects his government to feed him when hungry, clothe him when naked, to prescribe when his child may be born and when he may die, and, in fine, to regulate every act of humanity from the cradle to the tomb, including the manner in which he may seek future admission to paradise.

Mark Twain
18 posted on 08/09/2002 4:12:32 AM PDT by razorback-bert
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In my area, the bar that went no smoking has become the busiest bar, the delicatessen that banned smoking has become the busiest delicatessen, the steakhouse that banned smoking has become the busiest steakhouse, etc.

When I go out with a sizable group of people, the number one factor deciding where we go is haw bad the place stinks of smoke (and how bad we stink of smoke after we leave).

If you are wondering if nicotine is addictive, just watch the reaction to these smoking bans. They react with terror in their words.

Smokers are sad and pathetic.
19 posted on 08/09/2002 4:30:23 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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If they ban smoking it won't be neccesary. There won't be anyone left with a liquor license to sell the stuff.
20 posted on 08/09/2002 4:34:48 AM PDT by tcostell
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