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To: sarcasm
In my area, the bar that went no smoking has become the busiest bar, the delicatessen that banned smoking has become the busiest delicatessen, the steakhouse that banned smoking has become the busiest steakhouse, etc.

When I go out with a sizable group of people, the number one factor deciding where we go is haw bad the place stinks of smoke (and how bad we stink of smoke after we leave).

If you are wondering if nicotine is addictive, just watch the reaction to these smoking bans. They react with terror in their words.

Smokers are sad and pathetic.
19 posted on 08/09/2002 4:30:23 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve
There is much truth to that - the reason we don't go out much is because we can't stand smelling like an ashtray at the end of the evening. If we knew there would be no smoking in a place, we would go there often.
21 posted on 08/09/2002 4:35:38 AM PDT by meowmeow
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To: Born to Conserve
In my area, the bar that went no smoking has become the busiest bar, the delicatessen that banned smoking has become the busiest delicatessen, the steakhouse that banned smoking has become the busiest steakhouse, etc.

When I go out with a sizable group of people, the number one factor deciding where we go is haw bad the place stinks of smoke (and how bad we stink of smoke after we leave).

If you are wondering if nicotine is addictive, just watch the reaction to these smoking bans. They react with terror in their words.

Smokers are sad and pathetic.

Not nearly as sad and pathetic as those who seek to make their own personal prejudices into law.

If non-smoking bars were really that succesful, don't you think more bar owners would ban it? The fact is they aren't, and indeed in this area any bar that banned smoking would be closed in six months. If that weren't true most places, there'd be no push for legal bans.

By the way, I'm a part time bar employee and a non-smoker. I'd rather not be "protected" out of my extra $$$ by Big Brother, thank you very much.

-Eric

23 posted on 08/09/2002 4:42:23 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: Born to Conserve
In my area, the bar that went no smoking has become the busiest bar, the delicatessen that banned smoking has become the busiest delicatessen, the steakhouse that banned smoking has become the busiest steakhouse, etc.

...Smokers are sad and pathetic.

I'm a former smoker, and frankly, what I miss the most is the atmosphere where everyone is sitting around, talking, relaxing, enjoying a few smokes and brews.

But your attitude...you really don't get it. In your area, there are bars, restaurants, and delis that chose to ban smoking, and you choose to go to them, and they do just fine with their decision.

But that's the point...it's a choice. If other business owners choose to allow smoking, and other people choose them, and you don't, that's their decision to forgo your business.

It's something that we used to have...freedom of choice. If you expressed your attitude about any other group, it would be a "hate crime".

32 posted on 08/09/2002 5:21:49 AM PDT by grania
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To: Born to Conserve
Silly me, I chose my eating places based on the quality of the food.

Now if we get to ban things that offend some of us in public places, I am for banning children, they tend to loud, rude and undisplined ruining my dining experience. Alcohol should be banned in restaurants (that what saloons are for) also, it tends to make people turn into loud, boisterous, stumbling drunks spillings drink(alcohol smells bad) on other diners, again ruining the experience. Lets do away with slopply dressers too.

Let's keep the fat ugly drunk smokers in their bar and grills, so we elite gourmet diners can eat in peace in our la-de-da restaurants.

36 posted on 08/09/2002 5:55:54 AM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: Born to Conserve
Smokers are sad and pathetic.

Your a sad and pathetic RINO! All for you and nothing for us. Pretty good stance you take there, you nasty RINO!

Conservatives work for the good of ALL people. Not just pick and choose. Even our own President is against hurting small business's. Guess you are wearing a brown shirt and jack boots. Your kind make me ill.

44 posted on 08/09/2002 6:40:36 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Born to Conserve
They react with terror in their words.

Terror, no. Anger, yes.
As for smokers being sad and pathetic, $crew you too, buddy!
If you want to generalize, people who worry about where to go because they might encounter a smell they don't like are nuerotic and compulsive.

73 posted on 08/09/2002 7:22:32 AM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: Born to Conserve
In my area, the bar that went no smoking has become the busiest bar, the delicatessen that banned smoking has become the busiest delicatessen, the steakhouse that banned smoking has become the busiest steakhouse, etc.

This is excactly the way it should work..... owners choice, you don't seem to understand, this is a matter of being free to choose.

Next ...... fast and fatty foods, in case you havent noticed, there is already a court case suing the four biggest fast food chains, making them responsible for people s obesity, how far are you willing to go. ??

74 posted on 08/09/2002 7:24:03 AM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Born to Conserve
Restaurants are already free to ban smoking. If what you say is true, then any restauranteur in his right mind has already prohibited smoking in his or her own establishment.

The problem is that the anti-smoking fascists can't sleep at night knowing that there might be some restuarant, somewhere, wherein the owner is catering to smokers in addition to people who aren't anti-smoking fascists, and hence they jump out of their beds to goosestep another unconservative, Liberty robbing, business regulating law into effect.

What a nation of poofters some of you are turning this former Republic into!

92 posted on 08/09/2002 7:47:05 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: Born to Conserve
You are pathetic.

Loser, turn left and go back to DU.


155 posted on 08/13/2002 9:15:08 AM PDT by Eaker
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