[PA Engineer]

Did a title search and could not find this posted. An interesting read to add to the OKC list.

[coloradan]

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[spodefly]

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[jackliberty]

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[glorygirl]

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Charles Key : Right, and that's where I'm coming from with this . . . Could there be somebody in the government that . . . For example, I'll tell you this . . . I've been told by a source that the genesis of the Oklahoma City bombing began right after Waco, and that some ATF officials and that other government officials--these were the words that were used by the source--began to put together a publicity sting operation to make the ATF look good, because the ATF looked so bad because of Waco. So they started planning a publicity sting operation. And this source told me that "after that I don't know what happened, how it further developed, but I know it started off as a publicity sting operation."

Disinformation: Yes, some people in Oklahoma believe that the bombing was all about a failed sting operation. That ATF and other government agents knew McVeigh and accomplices were planning to bomb a building. And the government agents were following McVeigh, or undercover agents were working with him, and the plan was to catch him at the last moment, and arrest as many co-conspirators as possible. And your source is saying that this was also a publicity thing for the ATF . . . But then what happened? The sting operation went a little too far and 168 people were killed?

Charles Key : Well, this person made it very clear that he had that information that that's the way it began. This would be in 1993, after Waco. Late '93, early '94. What he was trying to say to me was that, "what else happened, how this developed further, I don't know. But I know there were officials that were starting to come up with ideas about how could we do a publicity sting operation."

Disinformation: Can you say if that source was an ATF, or government employee? How reliable do you consider him to be?

Charles Key: The source was and is an employee in the legislative branch of the federal government. The person is a very reliable source.

What can possibly be said?

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[serinde]

We have never said the government bombed its own building. I don't think we have proof of government complicity. All we have is very clear proof of government complicity in the cover-up, and wanting to cover this thing up and do whatever it takes to cover it up. That says something right there.

I'm glad to see that a committee is supposed to re-open this investigation. I'm not holding my breath that anything will come of it or change the govt's position.

If the govt. knew this was going to happen, whether through a sting or whatever and didn't tell anyone except the ATF workers, IMO they were complicit in the deaths of two of my relatives. The least they could do is reveal the truth about the whole situation instead of covering it up.

[thinden]

another interesting excerpt re: atty stephen jones' motivations:

The most preeminent experts have said that an ANFO truck bomb couldn't have done this. It's very strange that Jones didn't use that in the defense.

Charles Key : It is. It's . . . I don't know. I have some speculation about that, but if I talked about it, it would have to be off the record.

anybody want to make a stab at what Key would speculate "off the record"????

[XBob]

do a search on FR for a posting I made several years ago on McVeigh's Mandaemus. It explains a lot, and was built on what I feel was the true story, and written by McVeighs first lawyers, which he fired, after they filed it for him.

[carenot]

An interesting read to add to the OKC list.

I love that site! First time I have seen it.